Now by God Ramsey and all the anti M'boro noise makers need to listen to Tuke and his boys about that new Muslim center. Maybe they all ought to visit ground zero in NYC to check out the new Muslim center plans there. Sort of an ecumenical field trip, as it were.

Hell, if I were a Muslim I'd even be in favor of recruiting somebody to fly an airplane into a prominent building down there in M'boro. That would prepare the community's attitude. And even begin the renovations preparing a prominent spot for their new construction and installation.

Then Tuke et al could really display their liberal, cosmopolitan forgiveness. How about it?

Any religion should be a way of life. I have no idea how one could construe Islam as a nationality. And any definition of "cult" that includes Islam (e.g. "a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal") also includes Christianity, Judaism, and Hinduism, among others.

What is wrong with you?

Harsh words, Cynic. One thing is true, Muslim leaders do usually recruit others to do their dirty work. I'm sure Woods can answer this one: Is the proposed building in M'boro a Muslim center, mosque or what?

The Muslims do bring a lot of baggage and an unpleasant record, so it's not hard to see why these folks don't want the building. But, the opposition are simple people, unsophisticated and not wise to the realities of the modern progressive way.

"Is the proposed building in M'boro a Muslim center, mosque or what?" That's a great question John! Why can't the libtards answer that very important question?!?!

I think that we should have the "Muslim Center" built right next to Woods' house in commie east Nashville!!!!! That way when the inevitable happens, and the little suicide bomber's decide to blow everything up, no big loss! It's just east Nashville!

No need to get on east Nashville and anyway there is just a little nest out there where the leftist live, of course they can't stray too far off the enclave or they might never return. The natives out there are not known for their good behavior.

Still I think Woods would at least give us details of this Muslim thing in M'boro, where does the money come from, that sort of thing. I can visualize a minaret going up and the call to prayers going out every few hours. We have had plenty of details about the bigoted/racist opposition; how bad they are. We need a "thoughtful" analysis of the other side, so far lacking.

The arrogance of Mr. Haslam is nauseating. He obviously has done no thinking about how he and his winger followers are trying their best to turn a religion-the laws of which they don't follow anyhow-into a "nationality" Every day with every speech, all of them try to tie Christianity to the American flag, constitution, and every other aspect of this country that they can. They want their version of the religion made into the law of the land and they want every other religion to fade into the background and have NO say-so in any decisions affecting ALL citizens, no matter their ethnic background or their religion. The ignorant fall for it and as a result, hatred is fostered among the groups and then no laws which are good for ALL the citizens ever get passed. 'And the beat goes on.'

YouTube: HYPOCRITE!: Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey's Attorney General Power Grab

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DubFActCEc

Oh no! Not a minaret! Murfreesboro will look like Switzerland before you know it!

AS, you must do something about that picture. It looks like someone is chasing you.

As for the Swiss they banned minarets recently, I think, and much to the dismay of the "international community" now down on the Swiss and the French (no burquas).

I didn't live through the Civil Rights Movement but I wonder how many people opposing the mosques in Tennessee would have been on the side of Rosa Parks and MLK had they been around in the 1950s and '60s?

The intolerance and stupidity that we're seeing today from the likes of Ramsey and Zelenik can't be much different than what we saw 50 years ago. Yes, it's on a smaller scale and it's limited mainly to ignorant speech, but I wouldn't exactly call that progress. In any case, I wouldn't want Zelenik to be in charge of fire hoses and police dogs the day the mosque opens.

MEP, surely you are aware of Muslim issues with us and, for that matter, there own people.

I had not thought of police dogs 50 yrs ago but that comparison won't fly. I'll bet the good folks in M'boro probably think bombings, honor killings, stoning, a pretty unattractive list linked to Muslims. So the people are not as sophisticated as most on this blog, but at least you might show a little more tolerance of their views which are here and now.

I also wonder if the Muslims in M'boro stood up in their city meetings and renounced terror and the teaching of the extremes of Islam. I'll bet they did not.

Christianity doesn't exactly have a peaceful track record either, dude. Look at the Vatican's conduct during the Holocaust or its response to the AIDS epidemic, all those abortion clinic bombers, our own war in Iraq, the Civil War in Ireland etc. etc. Oh--and slavery and segregation, the worst part of our history, was condoned and maintained, in part, by many Southern Baptists.

Bottom line is that a lot of violence and oppression is perpetrated in the name of religion.

And, by the way, no one is asking the people in Murfreesboro who oppose the mosque to convert. Some of us simply think they should just let their neighbors pray in peace.

Convert , enslave or kill all infidels.

The religion of peace that the libs defend.

amytinsparta , the story is about Ramsey not Haslem.

"So the people are not as sophisticated as most on this blog, but at least you might show a little more tolerance of their views which are here and now."

Tolerance for intolerance?

I normally work to avoid name calling as a small-minded enterprise. I am giving myself dispensation tonight just because I'll be in such 'good' company.

Cowards. Those of you who choose to live in fear are cowards. Those of you who lash out in anger fueled by your fear are cowards. Those Christians among you who fear the religion of Islam in reaction to the Muslim extremists do shame to your own faith. A strong faith in the mission, message, and morality of Christ followers would not fear at all and would never tear down the whole due to disease in the parts. We would look to the timber(s) in our own eye.

I never would have believed the number of reactionary cowards our country has produced.

well I was wondering which one to vote for IT looks like ramsy is out ,I can not and will not support stupid,uneducated ,ignorent people,that do not even understand our constitution,I wonder why is he studying sharea law ?does he plan on making it a law here ?perhaps learnning the constitution shall come first ,Then learn that Islam is practiced by 1.2 bilion people in 150 countries,majority of muslims are caucasion,there are millions of christian that live in muslim countries with 1000,s of churches freely,muslims holy book is a continuation of bible ,muslims accept abraham,moses,jesus as profit of god,allah is arabic translation of god,majority of muslims are not arab,there are 9 million muslim americans 3 million more than jews,70% used to be republicans till hate mongers like zelenik,rush,hanady,levin,bork,fox news etc took over the party and gave us the smack in the face lose of 2008,If we continue on this path and elect ron ramsey,and people like him soon there wont be any republican party,foot note :the radical islam that gave us 9/11 was not naturaly created by muslims but artificialy created by CIA,saudi security ,pakistan spy agency to defeat the soviets in afganistan,.so stop blaming your fellow american muslims they had nothing to do with it and yet have paid a heavy price and continue to pay for a crime they did not condon or committ,fellow tennessian lets use common sense treat your muslims tennessian like you want to be treated ,they have been in this country since this country was founded ,by the way ramsey is a muslim name so does mr ramsey knows where he came from? well probably his ancesters where milongins which where muslim settlers from turkey.

"the radical islam that gave us 9/11 was not naturaly created by muslims but artificialy created by CIA"

Oh really now. Suggest you read up on the Wahabbi Muslims in Saudi Arabia. Wahabbis spawned Osama Bin Laden. He spawned Alqaida. Just exactly where did CIA have anything to do with that?

soooo, most of these people freaking out will be dead soon, right? usually when i run across Christ-bitten, anti-science, gay-hating, religiously-intolerant bigots they typically tend to be 65 or older. I'm just going to wait it out I guess.

Bigotry and inability to understand the First Amendment are just more reasons to not vote for Ramsey, and the only reasons I need to vote for someone other than Zelenik.

W D humpfree,you are correct in saudi wahhabbi as a base of the idea,and I said it was created and spawned by saudis,pakistani,s,cia in team work,saudi money and Idea,CIA determine the need for strong counter to soviets and provided money and weapons,pakistan opened and operated the schools that only teaches the new radical spin to produce so called mojahedin,.

please check out http://www.islamicsolutions.com/what-god-d…

Hey you stupid racist White Communities Now. There is a mosque in my neighborhood. Before they arrived, you didn't even slow down at the carwash unless you wanted to be shot, robbed, or both. They cleaned up 12 South and are largely responsible for it's comeback today. But why try to reason with an ignorant ranting racist fool like you. Stay white, idiot. Hope a person of color prepares your next take-out order and puts plenty of extras on top.

To white communities NOW.this is not a race issue since 80% of muslims in TN are white ,not a foreigner issue since 95% are US citizen there by american like it or not ,I bet you if you look hard enough you have a family member that is a muslim,you and your fellow white members must protect freedom of religion there by protecting your own,by the way AIPAC is fueling this fire ,look up AIPAC and see if they are your buddy,I bet NOT????????

AIPAC? I see now the board anti-Semites are attacking this fine Jewish organization.

Dear John ,steve emerson,frank gafney or member of AIPAC you just proved my point ,that is your sign ,you need to stop your hate mongering in our state ,I am not anti-semite but I am anti spies of israel that promote hate among americans to benefit israel ,you are the worst enemy this country has and the most dangerous,why do you not explain connection of israeli spies with 9/11.if you claim you do not know just google(9/11 Israel)that is if you playing dummmmmm.

Sounds like an anti-Semite to me. but, since I am familiar with AIPAC, perhaps not. However vols fan does sound a little crazed.... 9/11 Israel, google it. Spies?

The fact he calls himself vol fan is a problem.

Actually AIPAC is not a Jewish organization, it is in fact called the American "Israeli" Public Affairs Committee. Don't mistake Israel for "the" Jewish state. Just like you shouldn't mistake "Muslim" countries for the same. Israel is a Jewish majority country and the other countries as well are all Muslim majority countries.

As for this negative stereotype of Muslims which includes ideas that Islam, through the Quran and teachings of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) promotes "bombings, honor killings, stoning," is simply untrue. This is what is called religion and culture mixing, and then religion becoming obscured and mistaken for cultural practices. Women in Islam should cover their hair and bodies, (not their face) only showing them to her family and husband because of her beauty and out of respect for her. But, if she chooses not to no one can stop her from not wearing hijab. And it should NEVER be forced upon her. So, therefore when you see women forced to wear hijab and even burqas (which cover the entire face) it is because that society/culture is forcing that. You will not find the command of men to enforce wearing hijab in the Quran ANYWHERE and you will not find Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) commanding it either. The same is for killing innocent people, and women and children, for suicide bombings (it is suicide! No religion promotes suicide, including Islam.), honor killings (there is no doubt this is cultural).

It is true that there are imams and sheikhs in the world that preach hate and try to use Quranic verses to justify it. But that is like when preachers in the US and anywhere take a few lines from the Bible and manipulate it for hate speech and to justify violence. However, all of you would simply shake your heads and say that's not what Jesus (peace be upon him) said at all. Because you all know that Jesus (pbuh) came to preach peace and love for one another.

This is similar to how when you look at the historical events of history: the Crusades (when "so called" Christians conquered Jerusalem they slaughtered every Jew and Muslim within the walls of the city), the Spanish Inquisition (where Jews and Muslims were expelled from the Spain, and if they stayed they were tortured and killed), Colonization (where indians were forced to convert or be killed, and were either forced into slavery or killed), Slavery in the US (which many Christians performed by whipping, beating, trading and selling human beings they saw as property, and then attended church on sundays), Segregation (where again church attending southerners believed that a person could be "separate but equal," but he problem was they werent equal under the system.), Timothy McVay (was a Christian who blew a building in Oklahoma City [an act terrorism and destruction and mass killing]) There are many other counter examples of violence that could be attributed to Christianity and Christians. But it wouldn't be true. It was in the name of Christianity that these thing were perpetrated and not by practicing Christians.

Therefore, what needs to be understood is that many acts of injustice, inequality, and violence are done in the name of Islam by people who call themselves Muslims, but there actions do not align with the religion (way of life). Islam preaches only self defense (which means that if no one hits a muslims OR is trying to oppress or kill muslims anywhere else, then no muslim should be fighting anywhere). Jihad (means "struggle" and it means 1)internal struggle and 2) struggle to defend and protect the religion of Islam from destruction by anyone physically attacking it). It does not mean religious war, and it cannot be applied to what extremists are using it for. This is only propaganda that some are duped into believing and that ignorant Americans and Europeans are believing as well.

In addition, no one of you has read the Quran. No translation of the Quran is the real Quran. You have to learn Arabic and read it in Arabic if you want to accurately study the words of the Quran, and you must know the historical background, time and place it was revealed at.

God willing we can all continue to leave peacefully as neighbors in America, Christians, Jews and Muslims, as we have for the past 200 years and continue to learn the truth concerning our neighbors, not heresay and ignorant speech. Islam encourages us not to take everything people say and believe it without first checking up on its authenticity and truth (because they could be trustworthy but ill-informed). I ask you all to do the same for Islam. Turn off the TV and ask your Muslims co-workers, friends, or local mosques for information on Islam. They obligated to give you info on Islam.

All praise is due to God. I pray to God that I have accurately portrayed Islam to you all, and If there is any mistake that has been made it is my fault. Peace.

John looks like you and RON RAMSEY have problem with UT fans that is ground for dismissal since Ron Ramsey is anti -constitusion and Anti -UT he is Anti-Tennessee he shall be fired as LT Gov and disqualify to run.,

Well said Ray! J.a.k

Ray2690:

For all the One-Book Ponies (Christians and Islamists) alike on this site:

Your quoting from your respective books to justify your hate filled ideologies is tiresome. It is not likely to make any of the 99% of Americans who don't literally believe in every word of your books into believers of your hatred.

Each one of you quoting from one little book as if you personally got a message from "Your God" makes me laugh. I am a non believer in your book driven intolerance parading around as religions.

Hey you one-book Ponies: When are you going to come out of "My God is Superior to Your God" claims? Hello, it is 2010.

Just as: All Men Are Equal, All forms of the God and all names of the God are equal.

Why can't you understand this simple universal truth? If you can't believe this, then too bad. History will prove it. If you are around, to see it.

Wow. This is so pathetic. First of all, for all those defending the mosque's building, you seem to generalize Muslims as suicide bombers. That is ridiculous. If you are going to defend something, don't add in a little harsh joke like that.

Secondly, it's a mosque. Churches are built in Murfreesboro under freedom of religion. And mosques have done the same. The fact that the land got approved in 17 days is not the Muslims' "dirty work." It's in the hands of Murfreesboro who decided to approve it in 17 days.

And about "shariah law." you give anything a special name these days and it seems to foreign to approve. Shariah law is nothing but the way the mosque operates. It still complies under the constitutional law.

If anyone here wants to give an opinion, have a good background on the subject. 9/11, Ground Zero, the news, and Achmed the dead terrorist are not good backgrounds of Islam or Islamic law.

“It’s time for American Muslims who love this country to publicly renounce violent jihadism and to drum those who seek to do America harm out of their faith community.”

There ain’t one damn thing wrong with that statement.
As much as I hate this guy, as much as I hate right
wing fanatics, I do happen to agree that Muslims
would do very well to stand up to extremists.

It’s not asking any more of them than we would ask
of Christians when we ask that they stand up to
ridiculous fanatics like Fred Phelps and his Westboro
Baptist Church (the “God Hates Fags” folks)

The thing is, they do! That's one of the major policies behind CAIR and ISNA in America. After 9/11, both groups called a meeting for Muslims to renounce the acts of the terrorists and bin Laden. Most muslims (>96%) are indeed against terrorism. Also, that point was not the focus of this video.

Oh yea... the great CAIR and ISNA groups who conspired and funneled money from the Holy Land Foundation to the Hamas terrorist group ... wow .... so much for building those bridges you supporters of these criminal elements.

Also CAIR is an organization founded by Hamas supporters which seeks to overthrow Constitutional government in the United States and replace it with an Islamist theocracy with Sharia Laws, by using our own Constitution as protection. Look up the Hamas charter and see what you find ... tch tch tch ... what a wicked web they weave.

If you want to see what Islamic Sharia Law is, just look to Iran, and other Muslim countries. Beheadings, torture, stonings, lashings, hangings, cutting off of limbs, and the women are treated as property and referred to as Tilth, so go plow your tilth whenever or however you wish according the Quranic verse: ( 2:223 - Your wives are as a tilth unto you: so approach your tilth when or how you will).

Don't forget the honor killings either of the poor women who are raped, and then murdered by their own male family members to protect their honor... yea... like what's honorable about killing? ... Can you picture running home to your parents crying about how some men just raped you, only to see your uncle, brothers, and dad butcher you to death to save the families face ... wow ... what face is that they are saving? ... the face of the satanic evil devil himself or what???

This Islam is not just a religion. Because it's got all the political and social ways and means tied up together with it. It makes it a unsuitable ideology in the western world where we have our own law of the land, which doesn't consist of such stone age barbaric practices which go against the grain of your God given right to live freely, and die freely as your own spirit sees fit, and not how it's dictated to you to fit.

And I'm sick of the Religion of Peace motto that keeps being shouted around town too. Is that word Peace coming out of the contra-dictionary, because it's totally opposite of the word peace in itself. Do followers of Islam think if they keep saying, "We Peace", "We Peace"that people will start believing it. All we have to do is look at the fruit of the vine of Islam, and it becomes quite evident that Peace means War against the infidels.

There are 2 Houses in Islam: "Dar al-Islam"- (House of Islam) and "Dar al-Har - (House of War) ... so if you are not a follower of Islam, that puts you at war with Islam, and makes you open season, because you are the infidels that must be subdued and purged from the land. Check out the Quranic verse:

Quran 9:29 - Fight (kill/slay) those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth (Islam), even if they are of the People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizya (protection tax/extortion money) with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.... Check out the "Pact of Umar" and see how the infidels or non-believers of Islam are to be treated ... there's no tolerance or equality for us.

Followers of Islam are ordered to fight until all religion in the world is just Islam.

Quran 9:33 "It is He Who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth (Islam) to make it superior over all religions, even though the disbelievers detest (it)." ... tch tch tch ... yep, I find it quite detestable to say the least.

Quran 48:28 "It is He Who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth (Islam), that he may make it superior to every other religion, exalting it over them."

Fighting is prescribed to the followers of Islam, and you can't sit at home either.

Quran 9:41 - Go ye forth, (whether equipped) lightly or heavily, and strive and struggle, with your goods and your persons, in the cause of Allah. That is best for you, if ye (but) knew..... yep, yep, yep... if the United States just knew what the real low down is.

Quran 9:123 - O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.

Quran 3:151 - Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers!

Quran 9:52 - Say: "Can you expect for us (any fate) other than one of two glorious things- (Martyrdom or victory)? But we can expect for you either that Allah will send his punishment from Himself, or by our hands.... yep yep yep again ... the hands of the followers of Islam have been quite busy the past 1400 years.

Look up the History of Jihad and you will see just how peaceful these followers are.

So when they get the upper hand one day, they need not ask for peace anymore either.

Quran 47:35 - Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost: for Allah is with you, and will never put you in loss for your (good) deeds.

Good deeds??? Murdering, maiming, slaughtering of innocents good deeds???
Wow!!! ... you see ... there's that Contra-Dictionary again ... what's up is down, and what's high is low, and peace means war, and love means hate ... blah blah blah.

So don't forget all you Infidels out there... meaning Non-Believers of Islam, all you guys and gals are open game in the field of Islam so you better wake up fast because you are the last country left on the face of the planet that hasn't been totally conquered.

Quran 4:101 - When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.... yep yep yep over and over again ... open season on Infidels.

Also check out how the United Kingdom is doing these days when they decided to extend a hand and build bridges to the self-proclaimed religion of peace, I mean war, oh, peace, oh good grief world, wake the frick up for crying out loud!!!

Just for the record ... here's the free to kill pass by the Islamic god himself:

Quran 8:17 - So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them, and you did not smite when you smote , but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself ... (there's those good gifts again ... shew!!!)

How did all this terror begin you might ask yourself?
Let's just pull up one of their most reliable scholars from the Hadith Collections:

Sahih Bukhari:Volume.4 Book.52 Number 220 - "Allah’s Apostle said, 'I have been made victorious with terror. The treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.'" .... (oh my .... victorious with terror ... hmm... could that be it???)

P.S. to Obama ... somebody hasn't been reading their Quran lately ... tch tch tch.

P.S. to the Christian mudrakers ... I don't recall seeing a Christian cutting someones head off on youtube and crying out, "Jesus is Lord" ... nor do I recall seeing anywhere in Christ Jesus' teachings where He said to go out and fight, kill, or do any harm to anyone.

So give it a rest, and focus on the real evil that plagues the lands, and that is people who think they are superior to the rest of us poor infidels and will stop at nothing to perpetuate this disease of the mind, body, and spirit upon the innocents who just want to live their lives in peace and harmony ... and that's from the true dictionary of words.

to white communities now;from what white tribe you come from??let me know and i will tell you your race base,in your idea aryan muslims are not white enough???your ancesters must have come from another planet,.by the way have no fear muslims rareley marry other faiths and move in trailer parks,now blacks and hispanics they love to marry your child and move in your trailer park,.

To Taqiyya Anyone:you are an outside enenmy ,stay the hell out of Tn,go back to Israel,we do not need your hate and lies in our state you aint one of us,

Back at ya ET vols fan,

For sure I'm the enemy according to Islamic standards. All of us infidels are the enemy.
And when you claim my hate and lies ain't needed in Tennessee, according to the Islamic Contra-Dictionary, that must mean my love and truth ain't needed in Tennessee ... so I take it as a compliment then ... don't ya think?

So what's going on in Israel these days .... let's see... oh yea... drive the Jews into the sea, and then the Islamic Mahdi saviour is suppose to come in the end days, then the rocks are all going to cry out, "There's a Jew hiding behind me, kill him".... yep ... that's what the Islamic teachings say isn't it?

Hadith of Sahih Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 177 - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

And that president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is still waiting at that well behind his crib for the Mahdi to come out... isn't he??? .... have you dropped any prayer notes in that well lately where the Mahdi is hiding??? .... all them other followers of Islam are dropping their prayer requests in the well .... dang dude .... you are missing out on all the festivities ... get with the program ... sheesh .... you ain't been reading your books lately either have you???

To all the infidels out there ... if you want to know what you are up against, then just read all the teachings and history of Islam and you will see where the lies and hate are.

And yea, I hate evil ... I'm allowed that right???
So I guess, these are the days people, where good is evil, and evil is good ... so wake up and smell the coffee, cause it's stinking to high heaven for sure.

And let's see how good your words of Islam are when it comes to swearing a oath:

Quran 66:02 - Allah indeed has sanctioned for you the expiation of your oaths and Allah is your Protector, and He is the Knowing the Wise.

Well there you go ... you can break your promises to us too when ya keep telling us, we just want to unite with you guys in peace and let's just all get along ... yea right ... taqiyya anyone ... yep ... what does taqiyya mean in Islam ... let's see ...

Taqiyya: precautionary dissimulation or deception and keeping one's convictions secret and a synonymous term, and a mental reservation and dissimulation or concealment of malevolent intentions.... yep yep yep ... you can deceive us by any means necessary, and keep it hidden to protect your true intentions of how Islam wants to dominate the whole world ... tch tch tch ... there's that wicked web being woven again.

So when will all this fighting against us infidels stop?
Lets see what one of their highly esteemed Islamic scholars says in the Hadiths.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 196 - Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshiped but Allah,' and whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshiped but Allah,' his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic (Shariah) law, and his accounts will be with Allah, (either to punish him or to forgive him.)"

Well followers of Islam ... I don't want to worship your Islamic god. He doesn't sound very nice at all with all the orders to kill others who are different than you.

So what happens to people like me?
Just take a look at how the infidels are doing in other parts of the world.
Check out how the Coptic Christians are doing in Egypt, right outside of Cairo.

Look at Somalia, Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Malaysia, Philippines, Indonesia, Nigeria, Thailand, Bangladesh, Dagestan, Turkey, India, Morocco, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan, Tunisia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Mauritania, Kenya, Eritrea, Syria, Kuwait, Ethiopia, United Arab Emirates, Tanzania, East Timor, Qatar, Uganda,... the list just goes on and on at wherever you find Islam trying to rule over the infidels by enforcing their creeds upon others who don't want to follow what they follow.

Even other muslims aren't safe from their own kind. Sunnis killing Shias, and blowing up each others mosques. How much more do you need to see to realize it ain't what they say it is by claiming we peace, we peace, when all you see is war war war.

Good grief .... according to the Quran they can't even be your friends, but ya see, that's where the taqiyya kicks in to trick you into believing what they say.

Quran 5:51 - O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

Quran 3:28 - Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.

You see that last verse? ... "Except by way of precaution to guard yourself" ... that's where the taqiyya kicks in to deceive you into believing whatever they want you to.

Yet they curse you in their hearts because hey ... you're just infidels and your abode is hell anyways. We infidels are the wrong doing folk, yet we keep sticking out that hand to say, it's all good in the neighborhood.... bring your mosques, your sharia laws and we will all just live happily ever after .... yea right .... wake up wake up wake up.

Yep ... and I'll say it again ... I hate evil teachings.
That's been the whole problem in the world with wars and such.

Somebody thinks their teachings are better than another, and they start killing each other to prove it. Well I'm sick of it. I wish there was a country where all of you can go and just duke it out, and leave us infidels to live our own lives without your freaking blood being splattered all over our streets.

So Islam is just an all-encompassing totalitarian ideological system, and this belief system is just masquerading as a religion and it's true intent is: "Fighting to establish an Islamic State to please Allah, by any means necessary ... lying and deceiving is nothing new in Islam for according to their teachings, war is deceit, and us infidels are in the house of war so they can deceive us wherever and whenever with their own gods blessing and permission.

Hadith of Sahih Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 267-269: The Prophet said, "War is deceit.

And you muslims who want to leave Islam ... tch tch tch ... I feel really bad for you, because this is what your Islamic scholar says in the Hadiths:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57: according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Yep ... that whole book there on apostasy in Islam is punishable by death.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 64:
Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."

There goes that reward again for killing. I thought the muslim god forbidded committing murder ... wasn't that one of the top ten commandments or something?

... oh yea ... that's right ... that's the Jews and Christians top ten commandments ... sheesh ... my bad ... what the heck was I thinking ... must be a different god now ... first the Jews are told to kill, then the Christians are told not to kill, but to love all, then here comes Islam taking us back to the olden days where god says to kill again .... too many gods saying to kill, except the Christian god looks pretty kool.

It looks like he said to love your enemies, and pray for them, and forgive them, and show compassion and mercy to them. I like the Christian God, He seems like a great God of Love to me... Party hearty Christians ... you're ok in my book, ... but just don't let those fanatics who twist and distort your teachings into causing mischief in the lands and I'm sure you will earn great rewards for being good to one another, and I bet you weren't taught to love evil either.... hmmm.... maybe I'll check out what's going on in your churches one day.

But if your church is anything like Jeremiah Wrights church, or that one church who harassed that family at their loved ones funeral because he was gay, well ... I don't think your God likes that kind of crap by disrespecting the dead while the family is standing there grieving because that doesn't sound like compassion at all.

That's why I look at all the religious teachings of the followers of all religions.
I don't like being in the dark, because you can be blind sided by evil ones who follow teachings that are destructive to humanity.

And any of you can worship a butterfly for all I care ... but if your butterfly is telling you to go and kill others who don't want to worship your butterfly ... then we got a problem big time if you catch my drift ... speaking of drift ... hmm ... it's been sweet, it's been swell, but if you keep this killing crap up, you're all going to hell .... wake up wake wake up.

P.S. ... I googled "The Religion of Peace" and my oh my .... Islam must have gotten their Motto hijacked ... tch tch tch .... you followers of Islamic teachings have been very busy causing mischief throughout all the lands because your Religion of Pieces is everywhere.

Oh I can give BS references too.

Irish AMERICANS in 1700s
Chinese AMERICANS in 1849
Japanese AMERICANS in 1942
Germany AMERCANS in 1948
...
Muslim AMERICANS post-9/11

It's a continuing trend: Americans love to hate.
Love to hate OTHER AMERICANS.

To Taqiyya Anyone:only two groups benefit from dividing americans and destroying our constitusion Al Quida and zionist AIPAC ISraeali radical spies which both were involved in 9/11,from your posting it seems you belong to second group trying to promote the goal of first group Alliance of Evil,why dont you go by your real name frank gafney,steve emerson,daniel piper known mossad agents ,neo con evil spies,you have cost us trilions of dollors and 1000,s of lifes ,stop promoting hate against americans and get the hell out of our country and go back to Isreal,your hate mongering does not help jews but hurts them in long run,but then radicals like you cant see reality if even hits them in the face,at the end of the day jews and arabs are both semites and most americans and most the world sees them the same,.

ET vols fan
You must be on drugs or something.
Does the spot light on evil teachings offend your eyes?

I find the teachings of Islam very radical, yet I'm called the radical ... wow .... step away from the hooka ... it's not good for the lungs nor your brain.

Why do you want me to leave the country so bad?
It's that big spot light isn't it? It hurts your eyes to see the truth, doesn't it?
If hurts your feelings to know that somebody's been reading the quran more than it's own followers.

And I converse with many followers of Islam. They actually didn't know these verses existed. They kept telling me, oh no, it doesn't mean that, and then they try to close the book right away, because they can't stand to know what it actually says either.

You see it's been mostly dictated to them. They didn't actually look into it themselves.
Well I've been looking at it for quite some time, and I started asking questions.

Because I kept being told the religion of Islam had been hijacked by radical extremists who have misinterpreted the passages in the quran.

Well I see the radical extremist followers of Islam are following the quran exactly as it says ... which is to strive and fight against all those who don't believe in it.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it all out. You just take a step back, and look around the world, and see the followers of Islam doing just what it says to do.

Then you go to the moderate muslim and ask them why they don't stand up and speak out against those who are following Islam so radically, and they get this blank look, of I guess fear of what might happen to them if they did, or they say, well it's my teachings, it's all I have to live by.

And I'm like, no, that's not all that you have to live by. You can decide for yourself, because it's your God given right to live and breathe free without these restrictions being placed upon you by others.

Yet you think I'm radical, and I just sit here and shake my head and wonder why your mind is so jaded into thinking that those who want to reach out and save others from a chain of bondage that restricts their freedom to live and breath free as their own spirit sees fit, and not how those who seem more powerful than them want it to fit.

Your a trip ET. Maybe one day when you see your loved ones life splattered all over the street, you'll wake up too. I have no hate for others. But I have a great hate for evil actions, and evil teachings, created by the hearts and hands of evil men.

And if that makes me radical, oh well. I know who I am, and I am certainly not one who will force my will against another persons will, that's for sure.

Nor will I raise my hand to harm another, or shed their blood so callously and carelessly.
We all have our own mirror to look into each day, and every time I wake up and look into mine, I say, today is a new day, and I will do my best to make the world a better place by shining the light upon the darkness that I see dwelling in the lands.

So if you hate me for that, it's all good. I can take it. I've seen worse in the world than mere words being spun at me. It actually makes my light shine even brighter each time.

Because I see the darkness that controls the minds and hearts of mankind. They hate the light. They squirm and squeal when the light hits them. They lash out in anger, as if to destroy the light, because it reveals the works of what they follow and do. It kind of reminds me of the old dracula or vampire movies. When the sun came up as the blood was dripping from it's fangs, it squirmed and squealed because it hated the light too.

So as my light shines on the evil teachings of evil doers, you can continue to go about your business of making everything seem perfectly fine in Islam, and how it's just every one else who is at fault, and it's all just one big conspiracy lodged against the nation of Islam, and they are just the most peaceful loving folk, and the religion is just being hijacked by a few misguided Islamists, and the Islamic teachings don't really mean what they say, because they are all taking out of context, and people just don't understand how much Islam has suffered over the past 1400 years, and it's not a true sunni muslim who just blew up the bus full of shia muslims the other day, and that wasn't a true muslim who hacked to death the christian mother and her four children a couple of weeks ago after a whole pack of wannabe muslims warned them to leave town or be slaughtered, and those hindu temples that were destroyed by muslims weren't really muslims at all, and all those bombings in the marketplace weren't really muslims either, but just some zionists disguised as a muslims, and those pictures you see of muslim children with bomb belts strapped to their waists are just muslim impersonators, and the Hamas charter is just a script for a future movie coming to a theater near you, and all those cartoons in Palestine TV of Mickey Mouse teaching children to hate the jews is just a new skit from comedy central, and that arab movie of the jews sacrificing a christian child in the cellar for their blood to make matza balls was just a joke, and all those muslims in the UK with their signs saying god bless hitler, and death to the jews are just actors planted by those dang zionistic new world order folks, and I could go on and on and on because the muslim impersonators who hijacked the religion of Islam just go on and on and on too.

But you see, I'm the radical in your eyes, because hey ... the light I shine, and the eyes that see is just a fantasy in my head, or a bad dream, or maybe I suffer from grandeurs of delusion of some sort, and I'm all part of the new world order, or the zionist conspiracy because maybe I belong to the Bilderburg group, or the Illuminati, or I hang out at the Bohemian Grove where all the presidents men go and make sacrifices to some giant statue in the woods, and the Freemasons have become a staple of my diet.

Well rest your weary head grasshopper, for I'm none of the above.
To be honest, I think I'm a alien from another planet, because I don't feel like I belong here. All this evil I see being done in this world here is foreign to me. I want no part of it, nor do I condone it, and I will definitely not turn a blind eye to it, as if it doesn't exist either.

So each night when I lay my head back down upon my pillow, and thank my higher power for giving me strength to endure all that I see being done in the lands at the hands of evil people because of their greed, or their lust for more, or who want to be more powerful than others, I can honestly tell myself, you've done well grasshopper, and tomorrows a new day, for the pen is mightier than the sword, and I got plenty of ink, and it doesn't run red in the streets.

T0 Taqiyya Anyone:you need to spend your time in learnning your whole religion not just the zionist part and become a real jew,stop wasting your time with what is wrong with other people,s religion,all you point out about islam can also be found in moses book and bible based on ten commondment,what makes you a radical is your political agenda to paint all muslims as terrorist for short term benefit of israel,short gains will not last ,I see all you radicals the same short sided and ignorant of reality and full of hate that blinds you ,zionist,nazi,al quida,christian fudamentalist ,aipac,jewish anti defermation leage,taliban,likud,zionist christian,dividian,kkk,etc

The Supreme Court should first discover the "original intent" of the parties to the document by looking to the events surrounding the drafting and passing of the clause or amendment, including the records of the Constitutional convention and the writings of the Framers. According to Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, ". . . to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects." This is confirmed by the preliminary draft of the First Amendment proposed by James Madison to the House of Representatives in 1789. In sum, the object of the First Amendment was to prevent the national government from choosing one Christian sect [denomination] over another and establishing a single national denomination. The First Amendment was applicable to Christianity, not another contradictory religion; of which Islam is. Moreover, the Framers intended the powers and limitations contained in the U.S. Constitution to apply only to the federal government and not to the States. The First Amendment cannot be a criterion for States, as they are open to establish any religion they choose. The prohibition in the First Amendment was to 'Congress', not the States.

to howard CG;well then this whole democracy and freedom is just a load of crap to con the world and it is a ploy to hide behind while we exploit mankind,I am declaring seven day adventist and moonshine the official religion of TN and I want everyone else deported,so howard looks like you are out sorry but I gave you what you asked for ,.

Some where all of you are lost in this islam deal it is man made by Mohamed to control people and to keep him in power. he did not believe in the true living God it interfeared with his life style!! why do you think there are so many different religions out there claming to be right. but are changing the word to fit there needs. Sure islam is older than the christian religion. But they lost there way. They fail in to the trap of the fallen one!!! Bible read it but don't ad to or take away!! means not to twist your needs in to the Bible. Follow the lord our God of all. Not hard unless you can't let go of mans World. sorry ETvols fan. HowardCG good stuff!!

I think Ramsey's comments sounded better in the original German.