Thursday, June 10, 2010
Crazy Crap Ramsey to Kirkpatrick: 'Give 'Em the Finger'
Posted by Jeff Woods on Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM
- Dynamic Duo: Ron and Joe
"You were on fire tonight. Ka-ching, ka-ching. Give 'em the finger. Want to make you commissioner of something just so you can shake things up."
"He was congratulating me on giving a good speech," Kirkpatrick says in this Mike Morrow blog post. "I texted him back, 'Well, I'm ready to quit and endorse you.' "
Kirkpatrick dropped out of the race and endorsed Ramsey yesterday. But Ramsey's campaign says the Senate speaker was only joking with Kirkpatrick about the job. Ha! Says Ramsey flack Rachel Taylor:
"Are we reading the same Mike Morrow story? Seriously, Jeff. Ron was joking and no promises were made for anything. Joe openly admits in this article that—and I quote—"it was the opposite of a quid pro quo". He made this endorsement because he believes in Ron and wants to help him become the next conservative governor of Tennessee. Nothing more."
We believe you, Rachel. Even Ramsey wouldn't be dumb enough to put Kirkpatrick in his Cabinet. Have you heard this guy talk? He's certifiable. (* That's putting it kindly. See comments below.)
In Morrow's blog post, Kirkpatrick also claims Ramsey told him that his polling shows essentially a three-way tie in the GOP primary, with Kirkpatrick "in the high single-digits." That's funny. Ramsey must have been joking then too.
We hope he also was joking when he gratefully accepted Kirkpatrick's endorsement in a press release and called him "an honorable and steadfast conservative candidate" who has earned Ramsey's respect.
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You can't even quote me correctly, Jeff.
Liberalism is, indeed, a mental disorder. When one distorts the facts so much that they begin to believe the lies, that person is the definition of a sociopath.
I'm sure Algore and "Slick Willie" (Clinton, that is) are proud.
The phrase was the opposite of how you falsely quote it. Did you even watch? Were you smoking crack when you did?
I said this:
In Barack Obama's America, if you are black and you criticize the government you are an "Uncle Clarence Thomas," and if you are white and you criticize the government you are racist or worse, you are profiled as a domestic terrorist.
Jeff, I have to hand it to you, you are headed for the "drive-by" media elite. You say just enough to imply something is afoul when it is not, and dance around committing libel without actually doing it.
Brilliant, Machavellian, in fact. You are my anti-hero. You, too, I give the finger. I think you know which one I mean. See you at LP!
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On second thought, you misquoted me with malicious intent. You even used quotation marks.
Actually, I believe that is libel. I'm going to put it to a lawyer and see.
Your venomous post diagnosing a majority of Americans today as sociopaths is bound to further your political career. I'm always happy when right wing nuts show their true colors early on. At least we can appreciate that you tied your (small angry) dinghy to a (not a chance in hell) sinking ship.
"Liberalism is, indeed, a mental disorder"
Is it your intention, Joe, to be taken seriously, or to just be a right-wing caricature. Saying someone who thinks differently than you as having a "mental disorder" speaks volumes about you. You utilize lowest common denominator politics. Grown up political leaders, such as Bob Corker, Lamar Alexander, Al Gore (who for some reason is always referred to as Algore by right-wingers), and "slick Willie" don't refer to political opponents in such offensive ways.
Grow up and if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!
"Did Ron Ramsey offer Joe Kirkpatrick a position in a Ramsey administration Cabinet? Both men agree Ramsey sent Kirkpatrick this text message after an event in Crossville:
"You were on fire tonight. Ka-ching, ka-ching. Give 'em the finger. Want to make you commissioner of something just so you can shake things up."
"He was congratulating me on giving a good speech," Kirkpatrick says in this Mike Morrow blog post. "I texted him back, 'Well, I'm ready to quit and endorse you.' "
Kirkpatrick dropped out of the race and endorsed Ramsey yesterday. But Ramsey's campaign says the Senate speaker was only joking with Kirkpatrick about the job. Ha! Says Ramsey flack Rachel Taylor:
"Are we reading the same Mike Morrow story? Seriously, Jeff. Ron was joking and no promises were made for anything. Joe openly admits in this article that—and I quote—"it was the opposite of a quid pro quo". He made this endorsement because he believes in Ron and wants to help him become the next conservative governor of Tennessee. Nothing more."
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Excuse me, Lt. Governor Ramsey, but isn't your phrase "Give 'em the finger" simply an euphemism for "Tell them to f**k o**"?
And I seem to recall that it is a violation of state law for an political candidate or an elected official to be promising political favors in exchange for services...
Elmer Gantry Follower says:
Elmer, you are so right about it being illegal. But Ramsey is following in the heels of Don Sundquist who said he did not promise Senator Milton Hamilton the post of Environment Commissioner in exchange for his endorsement in 1994 after Sarah Kyle whipped his buttocks in the Democratic Primary. Senator Hamilton said Sundquist had made the promise and would deliver. Turned out under state law it's no crime to accept such a promise, only to make it. Ask Tom Humphreys who wrote about it at the time. Sundquist appointed Hamilton Commissioner of Environment which boosted his retirement pay BIG BUCKS.
One statute Ramsey might want to read before sending another stupid documented text which can be used by law enforcement unlike a he-said, he-said unprovable conversation is
TCA 2-19-121. Candidate bargaining for support. —
It is unlawful for any candidate for nomination or election in any state, county, city or district office, to expend, pay, promise, or loan or become pecuniarily liable in any way for money or other thing of value, either directly or indirectly, or to agree to enter into any contract with any person to vote for or support any particular policy or measure, in consideration of the vote or support, moral or financial, of such person. A violation of this section shall be punished as provided in § 2-19-123.
[Acts 1972, ch. 740, § 1; T.C.A., § 2-1921.]
The joke is on us though with
TCA 2-19-123. Penalty for violation of § 2-19-121 or § 2-19-122. —
A violation of any of the provisions of § 2-19-121 or § 2-19-122 is a Class C misdemeanor.
[Acts 1972, ch. 740, § 1; T.C.A., § 2-1923; Acts 1989, ch. 591 § 13.]
So Ramsey committed, perhaps, a $50 fine and maximum of 30 days in jail misdemeanor -- under state law -- which does not disqualify him from running and which prosecutors routinely do not pursue.
But a private prosecutor might do so and the time to do so might be now.
FBI special agent in charge, do, please, bring on the Hobbs Act.
Elmer Gantry Follower
Elmer Gantry Follower
Why would Ramsey's spokesperson be introduced into the article as a "flack"?
Elmer Gantry Follower must be Chip or someother underemployed lawyer who
doesn't have the gas to chase ambulances. I don't think Mr. Kirkpatrick should
quit any day job as his candidate will be getting the boot in the Primary.
"Give 'em the finger"
Such a public statement just shows how totally unsuitable he is for any office.
All of you people didn't seem to be so concerned when it was suggested that Phillip Bredesen may have committed securities fraud, but that's just who you are, hypocrites.
http://ninaground.com/?page_id=386
So, Kosh, my support of gay adoption wasn't good enough for you to forsake your authoritarian, socialist leaders, boy, am I surprised by that...
So, for what job is f-bomb Joe Biden well-suited, poser? You gonna go to Jackson Day and tell him how disappointed you are in him for using profanity. My God, you are SO lame and a disgrace.
Hasn't BHO say he wants to kick some BP "ASS" after nearly two months of dithering in the margins with nothing of substance to offer to the largest man-made disaster in US History? This POTUS is another waste of DNA and filler material.
Just talk. Just words.... right? All talk. All words... NO SUBSTANCE!
Ron Ramsey broke NO law, and neither did I. You people are grasping for straws because you know now that even your backup, status quo candidate Bill Haslam, is in jeopardy because of my endorsement.
You better just CLING to your baby-killing and your dogma, and get behind neo-Marxist Mike in a big way. 'Cause we are ALL IN.
See, unlike you people, this has never been just about me, it has been about something much larger: that is, relegating liberalism to the ash heap of western civilization. Ron Ramsey is positioned and willing to throw more dirt on your coffins than the other two guys. So, I support him instead of me.
People like Jeff Woods have nearly destroyed this country. Just keep the printing presses rolling, dumbasses, morons, and see what happens next.
If Ron Ramsey decides I am too extreme, too volatile, too crude to warrant consideration for a job. It will be his loss and Tennessee's. We (Zach and Bill, too) have been out there for 13 months together. This is politics. No one escapes unscathed, but I can say that I think that ultimately, we are all friends. Frankly, I think either of the other two would offer me a job, too, in spite of how harsh I have been about their records. I would have proudly offered leadership positions to any of them. They are definitely far more interested in the truth than Ned Ray Jr.
Joe McCarthy had but half the equation right. He defined the enemy, but he did like you people wanted to do to us with the fairness doctrine and attempted to silence liberals. I am very sorry Liberadio and Air America FAILED. Sic! You people should be encouraged to perpetrate myths and spew your idiotic belief in the state. Problem is, no one in their right mind would buy advertising to support nuisance speech like yours.
Prepare for YOUR worst possible outcome. Your political nightmares are about to come true. 2010 promises to be a historic rout. The vintage, US Constitution is being brought out of the garage and is about to be road-tested again. They just don't make 'em like that anymore.
Jeff Woods, one would think you would have been tolerant of THE ONLY CANDIDATE who made an issue of natural (civil) rights in this election campaign (absolute immunity, private prisons, gay adoption, gun rights, free speech, due process, privacy, illegal searches and seizures, and much more).
I covered these issues in depth when no one else would go near them. Shame on you. All you care about is FREEBIES for DO-NOTHINGS at someone else's expense. Everyone supports helping children and the handicapped as long as it is not cover for some other big government scam. You people are famous for those.
I believe Jeff Woods life work is really saying "Civil Rights be damned." You are nothing but a pimp for the liberal, white machine. Please, Jeff, take a break. Fly to Spain and see how far you can stick your head up the asses of the Bilderberg Commission. "All animals are equal. Only some animals are more equal than others." - George Orwell
Joe and Ron do not believe in big government like me. So, let's destroy them.
Jeff Woods and all of the rest of you commie-libs are sellouts. Martin Luther King, Jr. didn't just get shot because he was a black man. He got shot because he was a pro-family, anti-welfare, REPUBLICAN, black man. Lucifer Baines Johnson and Robert "Sheets" Byrd weren't having any of it.
Andrew Jackson Day, my ass, yeah whatever! Indian killer, yes, he was. That was tragic. However, he abolished the Bank of the United States. Moreover, he was a brilliant general and a war hero to boot.
I am a caricature. Sure I am, but WTF is Joe Biden?
Andrew Jackson must be rolling in his grave at the very idea that this douchebag is going to speak at an event commemorating him. Andrew Jackson may have been a cold-blooded killer, but at least he was honest.
Clocktower, I like liberals, and I like mocking them. If I were to do as you suggest and massacre my political adversaries, what would be left to do with all of the time between my arrest and execution?
It is YOU, dear friend, who gives my professional life meaning. The only thing that would drive me crazy is if you were to turn the gun on yourself. Well... not really. I'd get over it.
YouTube.com: Ron Ramsey & The TN Mad Hatters' Abortion Tea Party - 2010 Gubernatorial Forum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcLpS5nZf1Q
If this is someone pretending to be Joe Kirkpatrick in order to make the real Joe Kirkpatrick look batshit crazy — good work, comrade.
he was running a distant fourth in the TN GOP gubernatorial primary, and now has decided to back the birther 3rd place candidate.
You really shouldn't fuel the fire with "Who is Joe Kirkpatrick?"
Joe K.'s apt to quote the self-annointed Prima Donna of Self-Interest Ayn Rand back at you with a made for license plate cover quote popular in the white-flight collard counties: "Who is John Galt?"
Atlas Shrugged because he just didn't care about others.
off topic: i wonder how these tea-baggers, especially in TN environs, feel when they find out how much disdain Rand had for not only religion, but the concept of "God"?
It's not off-topic at all, wvfii. I never realized what a total whack job Ayn Rand was until I read her clearest enunciation of total god-hatred and selfishness in For the New Intellectual. Rand was totally self-absorbed and seems to be incapable of compassion which is, I think, quite relevant and on point. Rand, having escaped from communism, failed to appreciate what she had in this land of opportunity. It is even more a mystery how those who are born here turn to railing against imaginary plots all about them when there are real plots out there worth watching out for. I think it's rational to be more worried about Al Qaida and a Christmas bombing than the Federal Reserve Bank and a Build-a-Burger Conspiracy to have a sound currency system.
Atlas Shrugged because he just didn't care about others.
"he [Joe Kirkpatrick] was running a distant fourth in the TN GOP gubernatorial primary, and now has decided to back the birther 3rd place candidate.
Posted by wvfii on June 11, 2010 at 1:41 PM"
Naaaw...Samuel McDuck was way ahead of Joe K.P.
You don't know me.
Unlike you douchebags (I consider this a term that is much nicer than you deserve -- please note my restraint), I not only know what objectivity is, I possess it. Actually, I admire Christopher Hitchens as much as I do Dennis Prager.
I just happen to agree with Prager's point of view about God, but it doesn't make Hitchens' arguments to the contrary any less logically sound. Maybe it's all a fairy tale to you. Have it your way. I call it faith. I am good with it.
At least, both of them come by their views honestly. You people on the other hand should actually try reading a book or two with which you do not agree. It is called "enlightenment." I know this is lost on modern liberals. I am helping you, enemies. Heed my advice.
Quite frankly, I do not care what you believe. I am not trying to convert you to anything. I think it would be a lot more fun to drag you kicking and screaming toward the Constitution just like you, Barack Hussein Obama, and friends have torn me, my political allies, and our country away from it for the last 50+ years.
That's politics. It is definitely a shitty business. I am just tired of being shit upon by people like you. There are millions of people who feel the same way I do who aren't willing or able to express themselves as well as I do.
So, I'm officially appointing myself to be their unofficial spokesman. I speak the your language better than you speak your language. In a way, I am merely seeking revenge for all of us in a non-violent context. Nothing more; nothing less.
So, whether you believe in God or not, the sovereignty of the individual is supreme according to both the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. Those two documents are my hammer and sickle.
On the other hand, your hammer and sickle failed. Remember the day? Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall! I know you infants wept bitterly that day, that is, if you were even old enough to remember it.
I know you are holding out hope in Cuba and Venezuela... dare to dream!
So, keep reading Saul Alinsky and listening to Noam Chomsky. Go to Afghanistan and become a human shield. Maybe Sean Penn will spoon you or teabag you while you are there. You are certain to succeed in life doing that.
I hereby proclaim the era of civility in Tennessee political discourse to be over. I will say anything I feel in any manner I choose without impunity. Not one of you can take me. Try if you must. I will smack you down time and time again.
Thank you for licking Ron Ramsey's infamous boots. May you be booted out just as firmly as Ramsey.
"You people on the other hand should actually try reading a book or two with which you do not agree. It is called "enlightenment." I know this is lost on modern liberals. "
1) I've read plenty of Rand. I've read Charles Murray ("Losing Ground"), and various of other ideological touchstones of the Right
2) lost on modern liberals? Joe, I'm hardly a "liberal", but HAVE YOU LISTENED to the modern Right these days? They've been proudly eschewing "intellectualism" - and turning the very word into an epithet - for 30 years now. they've tarred and feathered any one who displays the ability to think outside of prescribed ideologies, even if it's to ultimately bolster a conservative agenda. They have traded WF Buckley for Palin and her Facebook updates. Good luck with that.
And I have to wonder how you felt about the sovereignty of the individual when the Bush admin was pissing on 200 years of constitutional law...
"Joe, I'm hardly a 'liberal'"
I should clarify: I'm hardly a liberal in the FISCAL sense of the word; you would be hard-pressed to find someone more liberal than I when it comes to social matters. Because, you see, I actually believe in limited govt in ALL areas, not just when it comes to massive, imprudent deregs and regressive taxation. Seriously, the cognitive dissonance of being a modern-day Right-winger must be hell.
I agree with wvfii to the extent that you should read viewpoints which are different from yours. This does not necessarily lead to enlightenment, which means basking in self-evident Truth. But it is intellectually honest.
Liberalism is indeed a mental disorder. The power elite uses every kind of deception to create a climate in which they can prosper, which is to say steal us blind. And when you swallow so many lies, you become full of it. So, yes it is a characterization, but I view liberals as victims of the War on White People.
We need people running for office who are unafraid to say something irreverent and even profane. Tiptoeing on eggshells only serves to obscure what candidates really think.
With each irrational comment you type, you draw closer to me, Joe. See you soon.
"Who is Joe Kirkpatrick and why should I care about anything he says?"
Posted by GuiltyDog on June 11, 2010 at 1:21 PM
Like most other Tennessee voters, you shouldn't...apparently, this Kirkpatrick fellow sleeps with his mattresses on his walls.
YouTube.com: Ron Ramsey & The TN Mad Hatters' Abortion Tea Party - 2010 Gubernatorial Forum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcLpS5nZf1Q
I somehow missed this post and thread. Just read it all the way through and find it utterly terrifying. This Joe Kirkpatrick is truly unhinged. I had never even heard of him until this. Didn't even know he was running. Does he act like this in public? Yikes! I don't think he should be accusing anyone of having a mental disorder. The pot and kettle thing, you know. If I were Vandy, I'd be putting a guard in Kirkland Hall. That clock tower is indeed calling.
