Tuesday, March 23, 2010

Yes We Can! Yes We Can! Yes We Can!

Posted by Jeff Woods on Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:52 PM

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Yes, we effing can! Today President Obama signed the most important social legislation since the Sixties into law. Here's the AP lede, which will someday appear framed on the wall of the wire service's world headquarters right there with the story of the passage of Medicare and Social Security:

WASHINGTON -- Claiming a historic triumph that could define his presidency, a jubilant Barack Obama signed a massive, nearly $1 trillion health care overhaul on Tuesday that will for the first time cement insurance coverage as the right of every U.S. citizen and begin to reshape the way virtually all Americans receive and pay for treatment.

Our new favorite congressman, Jim Cooper, was there and files this statement:

"This is a good bill and a defining moment for our country. Folks back home sent me here to do what is right for our country, not what is temporarily popular. That's what my 90-year-old mother taught me long ago, and I think that is what every Tennessee family wants for this, the greatest country in the world."

OK, that was a little sappy. But Pith admits we're feeling exhilarated lately over these events in Washington. We've been waiting a long time for this. Flawed as this law may be (hah!) yes, it's the law.

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Interesting to hear how Jim Cooper invokes his mama as opposed to how Jason Mumpower uses his.

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Posted by mr. pink on 03/23/2010 at 5:32 PM

Rights are freely given, not mandated. Never before in history, has the Federal Government mandated purchase of a product - effectually creating a monopoly in government. It is not the healthcare that we oppose - we would like everybody to have healthcare, we just don't want the Federal Government usurping power over the people with a mandate that is as Unconstitutional as every Executive Order since Lincoln. God help us all, when they start on immigration amnesty.

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Posted by Loose Change on 03/23/2010 at 8:22 PM

And then our legislature is considering declaring itself not part of the United States. That worked so well for us the last time, didn't it!
Ignorance is truly bliss. Loose Change is wrong in so many ways it's not worth responding. Nobody is being required to purchase anything from the government!

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Posted by Sabo Pike on 03/23/2010 at 8:34 PM

So, Loose Change, if they replace the insurance mandate with the public option, you'll be okay with it?
Btw, the mandate is not to buy health insurance from the government but from PRIVATE insurors IF you aren't covered someplace else (ie, your employer). So how does that "effectually create a monopoly in government?"

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Posted by Uriah Heep on 03/23/2010 at 9:36 PM

"Ignorance is truly bliss. Loose Change is wrong in so many ways it's not worth responding. Nobody is being required to purchase anything from the government!"
Ignorance is apparently not bothering to actually read the post you are mouthing off about.
What he said was the federal government is mandating the purchase of a product. And he is exactly right about that. The legislation requires the purchase of health insurance.
He didn't say anything about it being purchased directly from the government.
"And then our legislature is considering declaring itself not part of the United States"
That is also incorrect.
But keep up the good work.
You are providing a perfectly representative example of the intellectual prowess of 99.999% of all the liberals alive on the planet.

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Posted by Gilbert Martin on 03/23/2010 at 9:42 PM

"Btw, the mandate is not to buy health insurance from the government but from PRIVATE insurors IF you aren't covered someplace else (ie, your employer). So how does that "effectually create a monopoly in government?"
Becuase the government has substituted it's mandated choices over every significant decision that would otherwise have been made by the individual and the company engaging in freedom of contract in a free market.
It has mandated the purchase of the product. It has mandated what will be in the product (the set of benefits). It has mandated who the insurance company has to offer the prodcut to. It has mandated how the product will be priced by the insurance company.
That is absolutely a government monopoly.

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Posted by Gilbert Martin on 03/23/2010 at 9:54 PM

As us conservatives always like to say, 'America, Love It or Leave It.'

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Posted by Joe the Conservative on 03/23/2010 at 10:22 PM

"Yes, we effing can!"
That's a really cute saying.
I'm going to recommend that when Republicans retake the House in November they use that exact phrase as they are refusing to appropriate the funds necessary to operate the program.
The bill passed by Congress is simply an authorization measure. Funds must be appropriated by Congress every year to run it. And those funding bills have to originate in the House.

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Posted by Gilbert Martin on 03/23/2010 at 10:34 PM

So Gil, since you're apparently Loose's alter ego:
1. Drop the mandate and pick up the public option and you'll be okay with the bill?
2. You always make up definitions to suit your erroneous claims: that definition of monopoly is yours alone.
3. In this usage: "...has substituted it's mandated..." there is no apostrophe in its.
Dumbass redneck!!

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Posted by Dilbert Fartin on 03/23/2010 at 10:34 PM

"99.999% of all the liberals alive on the planet."
Go ahead and round off, Big G!
All Democrats are commies.

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Posted by Gilbert Jr. on 03/23/2010 at 11:54 PM

"According to a Gallup/USA Today poll conducted the day after health care legislation passed the House of Representatives, 49 percent of the respondents think the passage of reform is a "good thing," compared to the 40 percent who think it is bad."

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Posted by Waterloo on 03/23/2010 at 11:58 PM

Talk about ignorant....the Republicans in congress could care less about not funding health care, after all this helps their big insurance buddies out a bunch. They just want to keep you good and angry until the next election. And if by some chance they actually win enough seats to make a difference, nothing will happen with health care at all. Because they will have gotten what they want - which is your vote and nothing more!

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Posted by More Cowbell on 03/24/2010 at 7:59 AM

Will anyone complain when the section of the bill comes to light that beginning in 2014 everyone is required to buy a General Motors automobile?

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Posted by Emmett Flatus on 03/24/2010 at 8:38 AM

"Talk about ignorant....the Republicans in congress could care less about not funding health care, after all this helps their big insurance buddies out a bunch."
The insurance industry's "big buddies" is the political party that just passed legislation that REQUIRED US ALL TO BUY THEIR PRODUCT.
Talk about ignorant indeed.

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Posted by Gilbert Martin on 03/24/2010 at 8:50 AM

Most states require drivers to buy insurance. Cue the outrage from Republicans in 3-2-NOT!!!

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Posted by dingle perry on 03/24/2010 at 3:45 PM

dingle berry, don't be stupid.
It's hardly the same and you should know it.
I see a VAT tax coming to pay for this monstrosity.

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Posted by john on 03/25/2010 at 8:48 AM
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