Wednesday, February 3, 2010
Politics / Woods Revolt of the Moonbeams! Chapter Two
Posted by Jeff Woods on Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:23 PM
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Anonymous attacks from sources known only as "insiders" are kind of predictable, if not redundant. If they want to say something that all "would do well to consider," why don't they just use a real name?
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Wow, Jeff, this is really sad, you know? Did Harrison write this for you? I would expect something like this from one of the wingnut cranks who post at PP, but, you're a journalist, supposedly.
If this is supposed to be parody, it misses the mark. If this is supposed to be real, then you need to stopping hitting the pipe.
And they used to get on Pete for HIS columns...
Awww, Jeff Woods conjured up his little imaginary friends again...and now he's calling them insiders. It would be funny if it weren't so sad!
Ned McWherter made Jackson Day a success by getting Bill Clinton and Al Gore and putting his people in charge of the event.
Other than Jackson Day, Chip has raised no money, and he has blown most of what Jackson Day raised on travel expenses and paying talk radio hosts, among other expenses.
Chip is a total disaster, and any claims to the contrary are delusional.
Yawn. Dr. J, you are tiresome and your day is done. Not even Woodsie can save you now.
See ya!
This is the most hilarious and stupidist political "scandal" of the season. How hard can it possibly be to find Mancini and ask her if she's actually working against Chip? Why are Democratic insiders using the term "moonbeam"? Is it because it'd be too obvious if they used the term "Chipinista"? Or are they just trying to kiss up to Woods by showing that they read him? Have any of these Democratic insiders actually ever listened to anything Mancini's said? Because her whole thing has been about working on the things we have in common and all the stuff they claim they're for.
And for a year, they've been mounting a whisper campaign against anyone who dared even accidentally be associated with Forrester and now it's a sin to not fall into lock-step with him?
Ha ha ha ha ha.
What can we discern from this latest "controversy"? A faction of the Democrats really hate progressives. Yep, we already knew that. A faction of the Democrats really hate Forrester. Well, that's old news. That they'd love a way to rope both together and move them off the political map at the same time? Also, not new.
Someone up on the Hill has developed a real hard-on for Mancini? One that's verged way into creepy territory? And he's willing to use Woods to send Mancini messages about how powerful he is and how she'd better acquiesce to him or he's going to continue to make her life miserable?
That would seem to be the real story here.
So, come on, Woods. Who's this "insider"? Angry ex? Lowly peon? Mancini herself (that would be awesome)? Weird stalker? And is he the same guy who got Mancini's press pass taken away? At least, give us some idea of how far this is headed into Lifetime Movie territory.
I would totally watch that Lifetime Movie if it ended up being called "Mother, May I Sleep with Dr. Jellyfinger?" and starred Tori Spelling, as a sequel to her infamous Lifetime movie.
How hard can it possibly be to find Mancini and ask her if she's actually working against Chip?
I did ask Mary about this and she wouldn't talk, as I noted in my previous post on this. As for the rest of your commentary, auntie, I don't know what you're talking about. This is a pretty straightforward little controversy. These lefties are upset with the party for various reasons and they think they can do better. The older hands think the lefties are a bunch of silly dreamers and could wind up hurting Democrats by striking off on their own. That's about it.
The Chipinista paranoia and hyperventilating is hill-freakin-larious. This is a pretty straightforward case, but the Chipinista are trying their little darnedest to turn it into some plot. I love it.
Hey, Aunt B, Chipinista are moonbeams! There! I said them both.
Oh, come on, Woods, that's hilarious. You asked her last week about her new group. You posted new information about it this week, including a claim that Mancini has become disillusioned with Forrester, and you didn't ask her if she was, indeed, disillusioned with Forrester?
Then how is a reader supposed to take anything in this post? We don't know who the "insiders" are (I'm still betting creepy stalker) and we don't know what their motivations are. And we don't even know if what they're telling you about Mancini's feelings for Forrester gibe with what you think Mancini's feelings for Forrester are after you ask her about it, because you're not talking to her because she wouldn't talk to you last week.
This may have to move from being a Lifetime movie to being a soap opera.
"Won Choi and Mary Mancini are the driving force behind it. They've become disillusioned with Chip because he doesn't do everything they tell him to do."
Yes that's exactly how liberal party apparatchiks operate. Tyrants, I tell, you, tyrants! If they can't make that monkey Chip Forrester dance every time they throw a nickel in his kisser they begin fomenting revolution. Why, that's exactly how Trotsky ended up with an ice pick in his skull. [/sarcasm]
Puh-leeze. Sounds like your "inside source" is about 12 years old. Seriously, call up Mary Mancini and ask her. Jeebus how hard is that? You know where she can be found from 7-9 every Monday morning.
The older hands think the lefties are a bunch of silly dreamers and could wind up hurting Democrats by striking off on their own.
So, Woods, I'm sure then you can say unequivocally that these "older hands" were not the same previous "democratic insiders" who savagely attacked the TNDP for months...right?
Otherwise, it would appear to be more concern trolling by anti-Chip forces than a genuine concern about party unity.
Perez Hilton Braisted stamps his little feet and throws a hissy fit! Somebody must be picking on him.
Jeff Woods is a mean, mean man.
"Someone up on the Hill has developed a real hard-on for Mancini?"
Even the pols aren't that hard up or tasteless.
And these "older hands" also happen to be the ones who lost the state House, the state Senate, recruited Ty Cobb II and left the Party broke when they were sent kicking and screaming into the night by the TNDP Executive Committee when they elected Chip Forrester.
Seriously. These hacks can't beat Republicans so they're ganging up on a Democratic-friendly talk radio host and a volunteer?
What a pathetic bunch of morans. All they're doing is validating the Executive Committee's decision to throw them out by showing how petty they are and how they'd rather spend their efforts attacking their friends instead of going after their enemies.
Funny how the Chipinista have no answer to the charges. They can only lash out wildly. The funny thing is that they don't even know who they should attack. This is awesome.
But, dingle, seriously, if you're going on the attack, learn to spell "moron," you drooling idiot.
Did Aunt B or Southern Beale call Mancini? Did Sean Braisted call Will Pinkston before lashing out at him? You bloggers want to be "real" journalists, here's your chance. Get the "real story" if you don't believe the one put out by a professional reporter.
Chip must pay dingle perry to use mulitple names? Personally, I prefer "Snuffy." Or "Devin."
Heater, I spelled it correctly.
Take a look:
http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/10/31/633610346589409100-morans.jpg
This was a Republican who was protesting anti-war protesters right before the Iraq War. Aside from him being unable to spell, he also wasn't able to understand U.N. weapons inspectors reports - just like Bush and Cheney.
"Chip must pay dingle perry to use mulitple names? Personally, I prefer 'Snuffy.' Or 'Devin.' "
That would carry more weight if you yourself didn't post here regularly as The OG Ben, Noodles Sarducci, Heatseeker, Cheetos Bastardo, Kevin (NotSo) Sharp, Stupanuts, FloydR, Dr. Jellyfinger, Count Frankenberry, Beavis, Teabagging Barbie, Ana Garcia, Moonbeams and Stardust, etc., etc., and perhaps best of all, Reality. Dude, you've got more personalities than Sybil.
That would carry more weight if you yourself didn't post here regularly as The OG Ben, Noodles Sarducci, Heatseeker, Cheetos Bastardo, Kevin (NotSo) Sharp, Stupanuts, FloydR, Dr. Jellyfinger, Count Frankenberry, Beavis, Teabagging Barbie, Ana Garcia, Moonbeams and Stardust, etc., etc., and perhaps best of all, Reality. Dude, you've got more personalities than Sybil.
I'm going to go make some popcorn, anyone else want some?
So says "mr. pink."
So says Jim Ridley, as a Google search would tell you in about five seconds. I've only had that online tag for about 15 years. My identity on this site is no secret.
Now how about you? My bet is that the conversation ends there....
Pink: Shouldn't you be over at the Belcourt drooling over some shitty arthouse flick and mourning the demise of Miramax? Or do you just get your rocks off trying to chill commentary in the basement of this blog. Why not take the extra step and just post everyone's IPs, including those of the Chipinista.
Pink: Shouldn't you be over at the Belcourt drooling over some shitty arthouse flick and mourning the demise of Miramax?
No, conversing with you is infinitely more pathetic.
Why not take the extra step and just post everyone's IPs, including those of the Chipinista.
Here Here.
You bloggers want to be "real" journalists, here's your chance.
Um, no. Been there, done that. I have no interest in being a "real" journalist. Your assumption that bloggers are all just frustrated journalists is amusing and shows how little you understand blogging.
Then she'd be the first person in Belcourt history to find two consecutive seats that work.
Sorry to hijack this elevated political discourse back to the purported topic, but I'll just ask the question and hope an actual person gives a straight answer: Would the "moonbeams" seriously be worse than what the Democrats have now? I've heard tell that in other states, a fired-up infusion of young progressives is sometimes considered a good thing.
Hard to be worse but probably so. That's why they call them the moonbeams. They wouldn't have any money, and they would be ridiculously disorganized. Why do you think the unions and the environmentalists aren't already out there winning elections? Because they can't agree on squat.
Funny, I'm not seeing a whole lot of agreement in what's supposedly the party's center. If they're not going to win elections either, isn't spirited chaos an improvement over stalemated torpor? Would you rather be a moonbeam or a stalagmite?
Hey, wait a second. Don't let me catch you using "moonbeams" without affection.
You caught me, Pinkie. I'm every-freakin-body.
Geez, here come the Chipinista secret police again trying to squash dissent. That's all you little fascists know how to do. Ironic that the big alt weekly would assist them. So much for free speech. Huh, Pinkie?
Well, I got news for ya. I have First Amendment rights, and I know how to use them. I will continue to do so.
But I'll say again that it's emblematic of the problems with Tennessee Democrats that they spend all of their time and energy getting their panties twisted over blog commenters rather than doing something useful.
Cool by me, Chipinista. Keep it up.
If the question is, "Classic Chipinista or Nouveau Moonbeams?" then my vote, as Monty Brewster would say (take that, Pink), is "None of the above." They're both equally ineffective and appeal to a very narrow political bandwidth: Nashville, Memphis, and ... well, that's pretty much it. Pink: The reality is, if you'd carry your ass to places other than the Belcourt and the Fairgrounds, then you might realize that Tennessee is still a largely rural and culturally conservative state. Ain't no amount of grassroots organizing gonna change that, at least for the next generation. I'm not defending it. I'm just stating the fact, Jack.
P.S.: Yo momma so big, when her beeper went off in the Belcourt alley, people thought she was backing up.
And there's your mistake. Posting under 50 different pseudonyms doesn't make you "every-freakin'-body." It makes you about 48 split personalities beyond Norman Bates. Pick the one you like best and stick to it. You don't even have to have the balls to share your true identity. But agreement between you and four dozen imaginary friends does not a groundswell of support make.
But I'll say again that it's emblematic of the problems with Tennessee Democrats that they spend all of their time and energy getting their panties twisted over blog commenters rather than doing something useful.
Like anonymous sniping on a blog? Way to lead us out of the darkness, Galileo.
But grassroots organizing is what Chairgimp Chipper promised the Chipinista that the Tennessee Democrat Party would do. They were going to win back Tennessee by tripping the light fantastic through the state's hinterlands, spreading stardust and railing against the evils of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
One year into the Chipinista regime and we see how effective they've been. They defended a Democrat seat in a special election. They got a bright, young moonbeam leader from the Obama Administration to headline Jackson Day. They have all of their Congressional incumbents lined up to run for re-election unopposed. It's quite awe-inspiring . . .
Oh, damn, I slipped into Bizarro World. In Reality (That's for you, Pinkie), the Chipinista Democrat Party is fuck-all screwed stupid.
That's a good point, Heater. The moonbeams are the ones who have been in charge. And look what's happened. And now the moonbeams are splintering into little factions to bicker among themselves.
Pinkie, dude, keep up with the story. I ain't a Democrat. Never have been. I will cop to having voted for a Democrat or two in my day, but you couldn't hold a gun to my head and get me to vote for any candidate that the Chipinista would support.
I'm also not any of the other handles that you throw out. I am Heatseeker (hear me roar), and I'm more than happy to keep jawing about the FUBAR mess that is the Tennessee Democrat Party.
Riddle me this, Pinkie, why won't Mancini or Choi weigh in on this thread? You are trying your damnest to change the subject, but you have offered no counter-argument to the main assertion in the original post. They haven't said, "Boo." Why don't they call bullshit - if the post is, indeed, bullshit?
Are Democrats bailing on Chip Forrester's party? Certainly looks that way.
BTW, didn't the Belcourt run that "Turn off your cell phone or handheld device" ad before the movie. Shouldn't you be watching "Priscilla, Queen of the Desert 6" rather than playing around on the blogs?
I have this vision of Pink, Chip and Mancini sitting in the front row of the Belcourt, holding hands, sipping Chardonnay and watching "Chocolat" (the French version, of course, with English subtitles). Then afterward, they retire to a private booth at Cabana to plot their master plan for Democrats to take back Tennessee. Fat fucking chance.
Get it right, Harrison. Pink, Chipper, and Mancini would watch "Z" while drinking white wine spritzers (That's allowed in art house theatres). They would smoke cigars on the way to their tai chi lessons, afterwhich, they would drive to New Tazewell (in their Prius) to conduct a sensitivity training focused on the usage of bird imagery in political mailers.
They would then tape a television commercial about Pat Marsh's nefarious plot to clone us all.
really, these "moonbeams" may well be realizing the difficulty of electoral politics, especially in a state where a lot of people find your ideas "fern." Could be that bickering gives way to some serious organizing. But they aren't going to be an "improvement" as in suddenly Democrats will start winning elections. There are plenty of ways such a group could help, but as currently proposed I don't see it.
One big help would be to bring homegrown candidates outside funds whether it be from Hamsher or their own internet fund raising game, or going door to door, just raise some cash. Problem is as I understand things they want to pick their own "progressive" candidates to fund and while that's spot on in Nashville how's that going to help in Dresden on a practical level?
I'd rather they decouple from the Dem party apparatus like a rogue cop who just lost his badge and find ways to contribute to wins without trying to do anything like remake the party. Their unified voice would be drowned out within the state party (what shambles there is left of it). I really don't understand that impulse to belong to a group who would not have you as a member. Don't worry abt working with the party. Just hand them a check and they'll start humping your leg like Rin Tin Tin on Viagra.
Whatever they (moonbirds) end up being it's not going to make a huge impact immediately, so all the handwringing seems premature to me. It will take time to find their sea legs and negotiate the choppy waters, get organized and be effective.
