Tuesday, January 5, 2010
Education / Politics / Woods ACLU Whacks Tennessee Taliban Again
Posted by Jeff Woods on Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:27 AM
"Decisions about religion should be left in the hands of families and faith communities, not public school officials," said Edmund J. Schmidt III, an ACLU cooperating attorney. "The vital constitutional principle of religious liberty is best protected when the government stays out of religion. Students and their families cannot feel comfortable expressing their religious beliefs when their teachers and administrators are imposing their own particular religious beliefs."Recommended reading: Principals and teachers should check out this handy ACLU brochure outlining which religious activities are permitted and which aren't at public schools in the land of the free.
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I wonder why the alcu doesn't tackle huge constitutional violations such as the naked body scanners in airport, the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, the Federal Reserve, just to name a few. Where are they then?
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Brandon, really? Go the ACLU's website -- not the Tennessee affiliate (this article is about them), but the national ACLU. The first think I saw was "Racial Profiling And Body Scanners Target Civil Liberties But Not Necessarily Terrorists." And are you seriously saying that the ACLU hasn't been fighting the Patriot Act?
"Tennessee Taliban"?
Somebody needs to cinch Wood's straight jacket back up to keep him off the keyboard.
Gilbert,
Didn't you ever read about the bad old days in America before the1960s when the Court realized that the 1st Amendment had been misinterpreted for all those years?
Previous to that, there was mandatory Christian prayer in schools, Christian symbols like nativity scenes were imposed on public property and worse. Children were actually forced to sing 'Silent Night' around the class Christmas tree. America was like the Spanish Inquisition without Mel Brooks. I understant that Ayatollah Khomeni actually saw America in the 50s as the model for an Islamic Republic.
That is why religious minorities never chose America as a place to immigrate. Only in the last 50 years or so have other religions emigrated here becasue they no longer fear persecution.
I am certain that this is the story as taught to Mr. Woods.
"I understant that Ayatollah Khomeni actually saw America in the 50s as the model for an Islamic Republic."
Yes I'm sure he was inspired by all the suicide bombers blowing up the infidel non-believers from Memphis to Knoxville on a daily basis.
Yes I'm sure he was inspired by all the suicide bombers blowing up the infidel non-believers from Memphis to Knoxville on a daily basis.
You mean people like Warren "Gator" Taylor? Or Tim McVeigh? How about Eric Rudolph or the Unibomber or any of those wacko "militias" stockpiling arms around the country for the great war they're just hoping will start? Maybe James Von Brunn, who shot up the Holocaust Memorial Museum? What about Buford Furrow, who shot up the North Hills Jewish Community Center in Los Angeles because he was an Aryan bigot and thought that's what Jesus would do? Maybe Scott Roeder, who killed Dr. Tiller? Or Jim David Adkisson, who opened fire on that Unitarian church in Knoxville because it represented "liberals" to him? Or Charles Carl Roberts IV who attacked that Amish schoo? Or what about the latest, Johnny Lee Wicks?
Want some more?
Such ignorance to think that the only violence in the world comes from people of a certain religion.
Gator Taylor, the Unibomber and McVeigh's activities had nothing to do with religion. This is a pretty mixed bag in contrast to the Muslim terrorists who seem to have one thing in common and are certainly not crazies and rarely domestic.
Janet Reno took care of a bunch of the domestics, children and all.
The Unibomber taught at UC Berkley where he was a professor.
You just never know.
"wonder why the alcu doesn't tackle huge constitutional violations such as the naked body scanners in airport, the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, the Federal Reserve, just to name a few. Where are they then?"
I have seen them coming out somewhat against these cancer causing body scanners. I would love to see what politicians are invested in them too. BUT yeah the ACLU needs to go after the serious violations that you mentioned. Considering how far we, as a country, have fallen in the last 20 years, I really dread the next 10
It's hard not to feel your pain, Truth. Perhaps you can offer up some suggestions as to how you would handle your next flight?
Flying from Nashville to Dallas might be a rather relaxed flight, but what about your return from Paris to the US?
Gideons = Taliban
Oh yeah! I'm totally seeing the equivalence.
The long list of bombings & beheadings by the Gideons (not to mention their execution of women and burning of girls' schools) is widely known.
Gilbert,
For the record, I was being ironic.
My point is that today the relationship between Church and State is far worse than it was before a small group of ideolgues started pressing for a radical interpretation of that relationship.
"For the record, I was being ironic."
I know.
So was I.
And my point, as always, is to make fun of liberals.
Particularly smirky ones like Woods who thinks he's being funny and clever comparing
Wilson county schools to the Taliban.
"Such ignorance to think that the only violence in the world comes from people of a certain religion."
Such ignorance to think that you can get away with attibuting a strawman position to me that has no relation to what I said.
In fact pretty much everything you said had no relatation to what I said.
Your attempt at stringing together a bunch of unrelated crimes as if there is some common animating belief or ideology behind them that is even remotely comparable to an organized terrorist group is absurd.
Those crimes have no more relation to each other than they do with the far more numerous crimes that go on every day in this country that are commited by bank robbers, carjackers, muggers, drug dealers or gang members like the Crips, Bloods and MS-13 who are snuffing somebody out somewhere just about every day.
The school district made MANY legal mistakes in this case. I work with school districts in another state on issues like these. The school district needs a new lawyer.
First of all, Bible distribution cannot be done in elementary schools whatsoever. The Supremes have ruled that elementary kids are too young to figure out whether the Bibles are being given away by the Gideons or the school. So there is a complete ban, but only at the elementary school level.
Bibles actually CAN BE DISTRIBUTED at middle and high schools according to current case law. Those kids are old enough to tell the difference between the Principal and a Gideon.
If a school distributes Bibles, they must also make this open forum available to other faiths. That means the Koran too.
If a school distributes Bibles, it cannot be in classrooms or at an assembly. The books cannot be distributed by the principal or teachers or the lunch room lady or the bus driver or anybody else who gets a check from the taxpayers.
And the principal definitely cannot go up on stage and tell the students how wonderful it was when she got her first Bible.
That's proselytization of religion by a government official and is ILLEGAL.
You wouldn't want the principal telling your kids how great the Koran is, would you?
I didn't think so.
Snorlax, a great name -- Thank you for a bit of down to earth reality in the midst of the mud slinging. Excellent.
Good, Snorlax! You brought us up to date. I like the way you use those caps.
However, nowadays, most would rather see Qur'an used rather than Koran.
Also the Unibomber was on some sort of anti CIA campaign. It had nothing to do with religion. In fact, chances are he was a liberal
"It's hard not to feel your pain, Truth. Perhaps you can offer up some suggestions as to how you would handle your next flight?
Flying from Nashville to Dallas might be a rather relaxed flight, but what about your return from Paris to the US?"
Metal detectors work just fine. The underwear bomber got on the plane without even a passport The Feds are much more concernned with turning us into a fascist police state than they are terrorism. HOw many times was Bil Laden allowed to get away? PLEASE just let me keep my Bill of Rights and Constitution
Anon, God bless you. I forgot about Ayers.
Truth, I thought he had a passport which would reveal his little trip to Yemen. The metal detectors would have missed the condom filled with explosives, BTW.
As a side note, I have this knee replacement which gets me pulled out of the line without fail in the US but never overseas. I have been overseas many times, I might add.
"Tennessee Taliban"...that's cute. Gotta look out for all those little old ladies and Gideons running around blowing up schools, murdering little girls, and beheading little boys because some kid didn't want a Bible.
Two words for the black robed tyrants: "concurrent review;" John Marshall be damned.
All the faux intellectuals who fancy themselves clever would do well to remember that historically, when the police state emerges, the intellectuals are one of the first groups to be 'purged.'
One fine morning you will wake up to realize..."We are all Davidians now."
