Thursday, November 12, 2009

Guns in Remote Parks--A Solution in Search of a Problem?

Posted by Betsy Phillips on Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:42 PM

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The list of parks deemed remote enough for people to need to be able to carry guns in them--you know, for safety's sake--is as follows: Alvin Beaman Park Bells Bend Park Cane Ridge Park 13591 Old Hickory Boulevard (which is scheduled to become a park) Cecil Rhea Crawford Park Hamilton Creek Park Morgan Road Property (the former Tennessee Youth Center) Peeler Park 6006 Culbertson Road (scheduled to become a park) So...how dangerous are these remote, desolate wastelands? How many dead and wounded are the police pulling out of these parks? A girl can spend her lunch hour looking at the police crime statistic map and discover that apparently not one violent crime was committed against anyone in these parks last month. Not one. (Though woe to the person trying to get to the park at the end of Neely's Bend! Bring a gun to the park, for sure, but don't worry about needing it once you get there.) But you know, maybe all of the residents in these areas (who are just poised to pounce on park visitors at any moment) were busy in October. So I looked at the crime stats--again, available from the police department, and again, available to anyone with a lunch hour. And while they're not broken down to park level, I discovered that, in all of 2008, there were a grand total of three violent crimes committed in Beaman Park's zip code. The whole zip code. Three violent crimes. Well, I can see why we need to carry guns in Beaman Park. You're lucky to get out of there with your life.

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Once again I say: WHAT IS EVERYONE SO AFRAID OF!
Biggest bunch of painty-waist nervous nellies I've ever seen in my life. You do NOT need to live in fear, people.
But then, why do I bother. Americans are the biggest scaredy cats on the freaking planet. Our crime stats are no worse than any other developed country yet we arm ourselves to the teeth and act like there's a boogey man around every corner. Fear is the American way.
Which, considering how we're supposed to be land of the free, is rather ironic.

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Posted by Southern BealeS on November 12, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Soooooo.....as you searched the police reports for info on these parks, did you think that maybe these parks arent exactly teeming with much actvity to start with? Did you ever think that maybe.....just maybe.....its not an over whelming, all consuming FEAR that drives someone to carry a pistol? Did you think that someone maybe....just maybe....may view taking a proactive step in self protection as an actual responsible thing to do? That actually taking advantage of a right that is guaranteed in our constitution may be considered a smart move by some people? Just because you have never been exposed to any kind of "threat" to your safety doesnt mean you have ANY right to look down upon or criticize ANYONE who takes it upon themself to LEGALLY carry a firearm.
Count yourself lucky if you werent one of the three people involved in a violent crime in one of those parks, or if you have never faced a crime that generates fear.
Bottom line is this.....recently, the subject of legally carrying a firearm in a public park has been the subject of a lot of controversy because of....well, you can research it....but, even though I for one probably wouldnt carry a gun in any of those parks, I still appreciate the effort being made to bring some balance to the conceal carry debate as it relates to these parks.

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Posted by amused on November 12, 2009 at 6:56 PM

Good try, amused, but if you're going to raise persuasive points, you have to start by reading carefully. As I said in my post, those three violent crimes were not IN the park; but in the same zip code as the park.
Second, if people need to be armed in our parks, how come it is that they only need to be armed in the rural parks and not the urban parks where there's actually crime?
Why should there be one set of rules for some city parks and another set of rules for others?
It's not based on issues of safety. As I've shown, these are safe parks.
So, what is it? Why do we need to be able to carry guns at the safe parks but not at other parks?
If people need to carry guns at parks, they need to carry guns at parks. Period. And if they don't, they don't.
There shouldn't be some arbitrary distinction based on the notion that people are less safe at the rural parks, which is demonstrably untrue.

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Posted by Aunt B. on November 12, 2009 at 8:34 PM

We need to protect ourselves from Coyotes, which are taking over parts of Davidson county. Coyotes will kill you as soon as look at you!

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Posted by Chris Allen on November 12, 2009 at 9:10 PM

So, your statistics are a guarantee?
Step out in the yard and grab a fresh breath of air and stop talking nonsense.

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Posted by owlafaye on November 13, 2009 at 7:47 AM

I have used Peeler Park since it opened over 2 years ago. It is SAFE.
There have been no violent crimes there, in fact the worst problem at the park is littering, especially cigarette butts.
But if you feel scared, don't go.

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Posted by Kosh iii on November 13, 2009 at 8:46 AM
Posted by Videos on Coyote Awareness on November 13, 2009 at 8:55 AM

I'd also like to be able to arm myself at the zoo, what with those Tigers mauling that guy to death in San Francisco. You can just never be too careful!

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Posted by Chris Allen on November 13, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Posted by Videos on Tigers in Zoos Awareness on November 13, 2009 at 10:37 AM

If I elect to spend picnic/barbecue/fishing time at one of the rural parks listed you can be damn sure I'm gonna pack a little heat. And not because I need to protect myself from muggers either. Rather, to deal with a nasty copperhead or rattler. And I'm told by divers that cottonmouths are prevalent in Percy Priest Lake as well. Prob'ly don't have to be concerned with coyotes, foxes or racoons unless they happen to be rabid, which really isn't very likely.
I'll just bet you'd change your attitude too 'B' if suddenly a neighborly timber rattlesnake sidled up and chomped on your tush while you tinkled in the bushes. But then again, maybe your level of social developement and civility eliminates a need to be tinkling in the bushes.

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Posted by Electric Larry on November 13, 2009 at 12:35 PM

"And I'm told by divers that cottonmouths are prevalent in Percy Priest Lake as well."
Please don't give the council any ideas. I can see it now, a new exemption for divers and cliff-jumping rednecks.
"I'll just bet you'd change your attitude too 'B' if suddenly a neighborly timber rattlesnake sidled up and chomped on your tush while you tinkled in the bushes."
And how is a gun going to help you there?

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Posted by Chris Allen on November 13, 2009 at 2:01 PM

You scout out the tinkle spot before hand you boob. If a nefarious serpent is detected you blow his ass to smithereens. Then you tinkle.

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Posted by Electric Larry on November 13, 2009 at 7:40 PM

Yeah, but you're a girl with a lunch hour. Try being a white Republican male with an irrational fear of every culture and ethnic group outside of your own gene pool. Speed walk a mile in those clown shoes, lil' miss smarty pants.

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Posted by Credo on November 16, 2009 at 10:56 PM

The statistics can show an apparent lack of crime for an area but that doesn't produce a reason to keep permit holders from carrying there. You can say nothing has happened there all you want but you can't pull those statistics from the future. I haven't experienced the loss of a loved one being murdered. I don't, however, want to be one of those people who does because I was under the pretense that it hadn't happened to me so it couldn't.

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Posted by Ravendove on November 18, 2009 at 3:28 PM
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