Thursday, October 15, 2009

The MTSU Poll: Making Sense of Ignorance

Posted by Bruce Barry on Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:35 AM

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The MTSU poll is getting a lot of attention in the state press because of what it says about views of Tennesseans on the H1N1 vaccine. But national political writers have picked up on what it seems to say about the basic level of intelligence of Tennessee's adult residents.

The poll found that fully a third of Tennessee adults (47 percent of Republicans) think it's probably or definitely the case that Barack Obama was born in another country; almost a third of adults (48 percent of Republicans) believe Obama is probably or definitely a Muslim; and 46 percent of adults (71 percent of Republicans) think Obama is probably or definitely a socialist.

The Atlantic's Mark Ambinder writes that this "snapshot of Tennessee" shows "how mere evidence and facts aren't enough to deter the perseverance of false beliefs." Citing Cass Sunstein's new book on how rumors spread, Ambinder surmises that "social cascades" are involved--the communication of beliefs among like-minded people. On an upbeat note, in trying to make sense of how the residents of a state can be so willfully blind to plain facts, Ambinder does refer to Tennessee as "a major American state." 

Meanwhile, over at Salon.com, Alex Koppelman thinks it's "time for Tennesseans to lay off the Jack Daniel's":

Even in the wide, wonderful world of politics, there are sometimes poll results that can be pretty depressing. Then there are the polls that make you just want to shut down the computer, crawl back into bed, pull the covers up and go to sleep for, oh, 70 years or so. A new survey conducted by Middle Tennessee State University falls squarely within the latter category.
You just can't buy publicity like that. Now everyone is going to want to move here. 

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Mock us all you want, Bruce Barry! I'm never been prouder of my party and my state! You know, the problem with libtards is they spend so much time and energy thinking. And after all that thinking, all they can come up with is socialism! Us right thinking Americans, salt of the earth that we are, how do we do it? We outsource our thinking. We let El Rushbo, Glen Beck, and Phil Valentine do it for us. And they are always right! We pay them handsomely to do all the thinking and the heavy lifting for us. And then, every day, they can tell us what the libtards are out there doing, and we can go and react, and do our small part to save western civilization from the evil intentions of those who hate freedom: the libtard, commie Democrats, led by Hussein!!!!!!!

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Posted by Angry White Patriot on October 15, 2009 at 12:03 PM

On the plus side, that means 30% of Tennessee Republicans don't believe Obama is foreign-born Muslim socialist. Sadly for me, 0% of them will be attending Thanksgiving dinner this year.

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Posted by Ashley Spurgeon on October 15, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Only 48% and 71% of Republicans? (the commie Dems and independents don't matter) That's low. But I suppose with all the liberal media portraying Obama as not a Muslim and not a socialist, it's understandable. Just shows there's still more educating to be done.

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Posted by Gilbert Jr. on October 15, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Gilbert Jr, Hussein is not a socialist. HE'S A COMMIE!!!! Glen Beck says that he mentioned Che Guevara 268 times in his book, Dreams From My Father. In fact, he fought with Che and Fidel in Cuba back in 1959! He doesn't want you to know that. There are pictures with him holding his machine gun up next to Che and some other bearded weirdo. I saw it on the internet.

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Posted by Angry White Patriot on October 15, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Lay off the Jack Daniel's? Hell, after reading those poll results, I could use a stiff drink or two.
By the way, the link to Salon.com doesn't work, but I went there anyway and found an interesting article about a GOP Muslim witch-hunt in the offing.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/10/15/investigation/
And this from Garrison Keillor:
"The wailing and gnashing of teeth that you hear among Republicans is 68 percent envy and 32 percent sour grapes. Here is an idealistic, articulate young president who is enormously popular everywhere in the world except in the states of the Confederacy, and here sit the 28 percent of the American people who still thought Mr. Bush was doing a heckuva job at the end..."
http://www.salon.com/opinion/keillor/2009/10/14/nobel_peace_prize/

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Posted by Marvin on October 15, 2009 at 1:15 PM

After the paper is out each week, you guys really let your hair down.

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Posted by sueyyyy on October 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM

It's quite a circle. Republicans fight against quality public education, which in turn produces idiots, who then believe the crazy nonsense that the right wing punditocracy peddles. That's a brilliant plan there.

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Posted by Bobo on October 15, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Salon link fixed. Apologies.

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Posted by bb on October 15, 2009 at 2:19 PM

The comments were interesting on Salon. I wonder how the respondents would have answered if they had to chose a definition of socialism as compared to other isms? The amazing fact is that many don't equate Medicare and TVA with the Federal government.

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Posted by sueyyyy on October 15, 2009 at 3:03 PM

It is interesting how those on the left like to say conservatives are "ignorant." But let's look at the facts they are ignoring.
Obama's interference in corporate America is unprecedented. That is the hallmark of fascism. He has advocated a broad expansion of social programs when we already have massive social programs. Socialism is taking money away from people who work and giving it to those who don't work. That's what we have in America today.
It is public knowledge that Barack Hussein Obama not only has a Muslim name, but was raised Muslim as a youngster in Indonesia, a Muslim-dominated country, by a Muslim stepfather. The way he abandonded his church when it became politically expedient to do so is not typical Christian behavior. Aside from this, black churches often operate as political action organizations that have just enough to do with Christianity to win tax-exempt status. Kind of like Obama's former church. That he is a Muslim is not merely a guess, but a likelihood.

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Posted by Joe Carmen on October 16, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Yeah, and the way you people use your church to justify screwing over everyone who isn't just like you is supposedly Christian???
The Bush administration advocated a laissez faire attitude toward business that was spectacular! Yes, we've seen what self monitoring and the trickle down economy has done for this country. We're dead in the middle of this fine ideaology.
Socialism is taking money away from the super haves and giving to the marginal have nots. What a crime!
Thanks for showing us just how dumb the political right wing in Tennesse can be. Yes, folks, you lost the freakin' election. Get over it. It in no way absolves you from being a responsbile and compliant member of our society for the next few years! The demon Obama will no more ruin the whole nation than that clueless twit who was "born on third base and thought he hit a triple" did. It's in hands bigger than ours. Thank heaven!

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Posted by commentator on October 16, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Commentator makes some erroneous assumptions regarding me, and my views.
1. Commentator thinks the Christian church is my church. I don't go to church. However, the idea of a Creator makes much more sense than exquisite order arising out of Chaos.
2. Criticism of Obama does not translate to approval of Bush. Neither does it mean that I'm in favor of the current Republican trend of compromising with the Democrats to the point where we have, in effect, a one-party system. I'm very much in favor of regulating derivatives, in case you're interested.
3. You fail to mention that the "super-haves" give us something far better than the government could ever give us, which is a free-enterprise system that enables people to earn a living. You imply that they don't deserve what they earn, and they don't care about people or donate their time and money to worthy causes. Ever notice that the names on colleges and hospitals tend to be rich people? How much time does the righteous commentator spend helping people?
4. I'm under no obligation to "comply" with you or any commie dullard who hates the achievers and the successful of this nation. My responsibility is to point out your extremely limited range of expression, which extends to blind lashing out at those who disagree with you. Try putting some substance in your next post. Show us you actually know something. Try being relevant to the article, at least.

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Posted by Joe Carmen on October 16, 2009 at 8:47 PM

Looks like Tennessee is in full-blown State 3 Mississippitis.
Looks fatal to me.

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Posted by Bob on October 17, 2009 at 8:09 AM

Joe, where did the Creator come from?
Obama left Indonesia when he was ten years old. When I was ten, I went to the Church of Christ every Sunday, so by your logic I must still be a COC Christian. Never mind that I haven't darkened a church door for decades and have just expressed a deep skepticism about the whole notion of God. Your apparent philosophy that no one changes their religious views after ten is interesting. Severely, mortally flawed, but interesting.

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Posted by Marvin on October 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM
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