Wednesday, September 2, 2009
40 Jealous Whores / Woods Who Needs Laws Against Discrimination? 'We Have the Bible for That'
Posted by Jeff Woods on Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:25 AM
Comments: I remember 30+ years ago when homosexuals only wanted to be left alone and they would not cause troubles in the community. Even then I believed they had a much larger agenda. Time has shown my belief to be true. Even today I believe they want more than what this bill will give them. Do you want your child or grandchild be taught by them where they have the law behind them to teach homosexuality in our schools. You may say that they do not want that. Do not let their words convince you that they do not want this. They want it. Don't be sorry in the future that you had an opportunity to stop them but, by your vote, you did not stop them. In 1975 and 1995 I fought authorizing homosexuality as an alternate lifestyle and we won. This was in Anchorage Alaska. It can be done here. I do not hate the homosexual but I do hate the lifestyle. Bennie McFather Ooltewah Comments: Please vote no on BL-2009-502. This proposal is completely at odds with the values of the vast majority of citizens here in Middle TN. Our opposition to this bill is out of love and compassion for the homosexual community as well as the rest of Nashville. It is not "loving" for government to approve of or protect a sexual lifestyle that is clearly unhealthy and a perversion of God's natural design for intimacy, marriage and procreation. While it may be "politically correct" to adopt this type of ordinance in our modern culture, no civilization in human history has survived after legally approving of same sex marriage. This is a very dangerous path for the city to take. Thanks for considering our opinion. Dr & Mr Lee McCroskey Brentwood Comments: I am voicing my opinion on this possible amendment considering sexual orientation and gender identity. It is outlandish to consider this reasonable to add to protected status against discrimination. Whom someone chooses to have sex with is not apparent upon sight which is what these discrimination ordinances are for so someone is not discriminated against when applying for a job. It also puts those organizations, such as religious based, in a moral delimma. If the organization's main goal is to abide by the Bible they cannot hire those who claim to live a homosexual lifestyle because the Bible is clear on that issue. It does not mean they hate the homosexual person, but, obviously, a person who doesn't abide by the organization's moral guide, the Bible, will not be a good fit for that organization. It also puts pastors in a moral delimma. Please reconsider your position on this. Thank you for your time and consideration. Susan Buback Murfreesboro Comments: Metro Council Members- I urge you to vote against this gay rights ordinance which sets a wrong precedent for sexual choice in our government & society. Individual rights are already protected in our nation & this step only opens the door for more government control & interference. We are heading toward more socialist control by the government & don't need to be told how to live our private lives. We have the Bible for that, don't we? Do the right thing & vote it down. D. Mark Hills Old Hickory Dear Council Members, It has been brought to my attention that you will be voting on this bill in September to extend non-discriminative rights to gays, cross gender, and other employees with destructive life styles. Considering the costs it will involve of covering these people for medicial treatments due to their destructive lifestyle, I strongly oppose this bill. You wouldn't want to hire someone who is currently an alcoholic or hooked on drugs. In my mind these two examples are lifestyle choices people make. The gay community is addicted to their lifestyle the same way a drug addict is addicted to drugs. They need professional help and our compassion, but they don't need us saying that this type of lifestyle is normal. Anyone who has been in a public restroom with a man dressed up like a woman, knows what I'm talking about. Do you feel totally comfortable being in that type of environment with a transgender/cross-dresser? I sure don't and I don't imagine many people do. Would you go to a social worker that used to be a man? You go to certain professionals for their advice because you need help. In my view, these are the people who need help. Please remember that you are voting how to spend our tax dollars. Please do it wisely and realistically. We will never profit and succeed if our money is being thrown away to support these people. I wouldn't mind giving my money for them to get counseling, but to say that they are perfectly normal, is out of the question. Thank you for your time and attention to this matter. Meredith Blount Thompsons Station This bill is unnecessary because we already have protections for all people. If passed this bill will ultimately cost the tax payers of Davidson County for litigation. Additionally this bill goes against my Christian beliefs. ..I strongly urge you along with 3500 + members at our Church to vote against this bill on 3rd reading. Lonnie Stevens Hermitage Comments: I oppose this legislation because it creates new civil rights that are not found in our Constitution and gives legal recognition to "sexual orientation" and "gender identity," states of mind that are not immutable characteristics like race, gender, national origin, etc. Also, this is a solution in search of a problem. For the last three years, Metro government has not documented even one case of anyone filing a grievance over employment discrimination based on their homosexuality. Ultimately, this is a step toward forcing the private sector to legally condone homosexuality. Creating new civil rights based on one's sexual orientation and self-identity not only affirms by law behavior contrary to God's design (Genesis 1, 19, Leviticus 18, 20, Romans 1, I Corinthians 6, I Timothy 1, etc.), but it also creates legal problems for the state and for employers. Since sexual orientation and gender identity are states of mind that are impossible to prove, the inevitable lawsuits alleging discrimination will be a challenge to defend. And these new civil rights are on a collision course with First Amendment rights to religious liberty and freedom of association. Once BL-2009-502 is passed in Nashville, the likely next step will be to impose this on the private sector. Shelby County Commissioner, Steve Mulroy and others, tried to impose their ordinance on the private sector in June 2009, and I believe that is why it narrowly failed. If the Nashville BL2009-502 proponents are clever, they will make an exemption for churches on the next expansion of the law in hopes that pastors and denominational leaders will look the other way and not get involved. Once, the private sector is forced to recognize sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression, in their businesses and non-profit organizations, religious organizations and eventually churches will be forced by law to accommodate these behaviors as well or be punished. Please vote NO on BL2009-502. Melody Carr La Vergne Comments: I am sorely disappointed in those 23 council members who voted in favor for this ordinance. At the next reading of this ordinance I respectfully suggest to these 23 council members that they remember that Davidson county as well as Tennessee is not FOR homosexuality and so to approve this ordinance is to go against the wishes of their constituency. Again upon the third reading of this ordinance vote no to it adoption. Thank you, Shannon W. Whipp Pastor Nashville
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You didn't include my letter so I'll include it here:
Dear council-members,
Do you know what you're doing? There is a massive conspiracy by the gays to take over our once God-fearing nation and you are enabling them. They have a secret plan called "Homosexual Manifest Destiny" to first take over our government and then to convert all of us to their lifestyle. They will outlaw all forms of churches except that Episcopal church where they let the queer man be a Reverend. They will then rename our country, the United States of Gomorrah. I know this because my buddy Teddy and I followed a gay couple to an undisclosed location and we sat outside with a homemade listening device that we stuck to the outside wall. It was hard to make out everything said but I'm pretty sure we deciphered it correctly.
So, in short, please vote no.
Thank you,
Conspiracy Buff
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So I see only about half of these emails are from people who actually live in Metro Nashville.
Figures.
"Carpetbaggers" or "Teabaggers" - you be the judge.
Lavergne? Thompson's Station? Murfreesboro? OOLTEWAH???
These places are in which council district, exactly?
Maroons!
Normally I wouldn't post anonymously but after you read this I hope you understand why I am now.
I'm a transsexual. Someone who has changed through medical intervention from the sex I was declared at birth to the sex I am now. I have close friends and co-workers who have no idea of this. If you saw me on the street, sat down and talked to me, worked with me, hung out with me, etc. you would have no idea that I have ever been anything other than what you see in front of you. I know you're thinking this isn't possible because of the stereotypes you see every day, but I assure you it is.
I'm not what you think of when you think of someone who needs this ordinance. I work a very professional job in a conservative environment and on the surface I fit in just like everyone else. But rarely does a day go by where I don't overhear something offensive about either someone like me or someone who is gay, lesbian, or bisexual. And in order to keep my job and my dignity, I have to bite my tongue and try and ignore it. Why aren't there more cases of discrimination filed in this area? Would you file a claim knowing you weren't protected under the law? It's like putting a target on your back.
I'm not a man in a dress in the women's restroom, I'm not a bulldyke in a suit who wants a penis or any other of the cruel images and stereotypes put out about people like me. I'm not a freak or sick or living a dangerous "lifestyle". I've been evaluated by doctors and therapists and treated medically according to set standards for treatment of transsexuals. I'm a human being who wants nothing more than to live my life and not feel like I have to be fearful for my safety and my right to earn a living if someone found out about my past.
Despite years of glowing reviews, promotions, raises, etc. If someone at my job found out tomorrow that I had a sex change 8 years ago, even though it has no affect on my work performance, I could be fired with no recourse.
This is not asking for special rights or for anyone to "condone" anything. I'm not something that needs to be "tolerated" or "condoned". This is asking for basic rights and protection under the law. Don't tell me that we have protection for all people under the current law because you don't live with the fear every day that you can be fired for no other reason than being yourself and it's completely legal. I don't even work for Metro and this won't do anything to protect me, but it's a start and an important one to saying that discrimination of all kinds is wrong.
Anonymous, egg-zactly. The mental contortions of the people who say "those folks don't need protection and besides I want to be able to fire them at will because they're icky" rather surprise me. And also, hang in there.
>The gay community is addicted to their lifestyle the same way a drug addict is addicted to drugs.
I watched an episode of Project Runway last week. Am I at risk of falling into addiction?
"The Scene" seems to object to Lee McCroskey
opposing the gay rights amendment. This
weekly has railed for Gay Rights and any
amendement offered for many yrs. The council will vote yes because no one will visit our Billion dollar convention center
complex otherwise. Business will go to San
Francisco and LaLa Land, and foreigners will
all go to Miami and NY versus Nashville.
Jeff Woods still has a job at The Scene? I thought the Thompsons or whoever's running the show at SouthComm would have fired his ass as one of their first acts as the new owners. Partisan hack, go watch some more Keith Olbermann.
I was in Nashville last week to visit some friends. We were discussing just how awful Tennessee has become. Not that it was ever a mecca of intelligent, open minded, well educated people with a concern for human rights but when you think it could not get any worst it does. We did discuss how Nashville can be an exception to that rule, we finally compared it to West Berlin before the wall fell. A little dot of sanity and intelligence in the middle of pure hell.
It always strikes me as odd how many people in
"the land of the free" spend most of their time trying to prevent other people from being free.
Kevin, it does not strike me as odd because "The land of the free" is a cover for "The land of the hypocrites". It does not strike me as odd that people like this will scream loudly to oppress a minority but how little they will react when one of there own uses biblical stories such as the one about King David and Bathsheba to justify there lying and adulterous behaviors. Or how little we hear when former deans of there so called Christian Colleges are found out to be child abusers.
These are the people that Jesus spoke of when he said there would be false prophets, wolves in sheeps clothing (Wal-mart sheeps clothing that seems to be) and that would claim to do great things in his name and that he would tell them to go away because he does not know them. They believe they are the children of God but in reality they are children of darkness and are blind. It will get worst before it gets better, but it will get better and these folks are in for a sad and rude awakening.
Fellow Scene readers, I know it is easy to read these letters and find them humorous, uneducated, absurd, unbelievable, and some of them even fictional. However, because of these types of messages IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER THAT YOU CONTACT YOUR COUNCIL PERSON tell them thank you if they are supportive or ask them to consider changing their mind if they are not. This battle is not over until September 15th, don't let the hate speak louder than the love.
