Monday, August 24, 2009
Law and Order / Legislature / Silverman A Shining Endorsment of Tennessee Gun Laws Courtesy of History Channel's Gangland
Posted by Jack Silverman on Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:17 AM
NARRATOR: BP members love to pack heat, from handguns to semiautomatics. JAMES CAVANAUGH, SPECIAL AGENT-IN-CHARGE, ATF: To be a gang, to be the bully of the block, to be the strong man, to control the neighborhood, there's no way that a gang's gonna do that without a boatload of guns. NARRATOR: Tennessee has some of the loosest gun laws of any state. No permits or licenses are required to purchase a shotgun, a rifle or a handgun. BROWN PRIDE MEMBER SPOOK: You just wanna buy a gun, just have a gun with you, you can get it anywhere. BROWN PRIDE MEMBER GORDO: You can get 'em from a gun show. You don't even gotta show 'em no permit or nothing. Say I can just come up to you and be like, "hey, you wanna buy this? Here. You give me the money, that's it."Yet another shining endorsement of Tennessee's gun laws! Way to go state legislature!
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The Gangland episode on Nashville was basically five minutes (if that) of content crammed into an hour of hyperbole, repetition, and staged "dramatization" footage. Nonetheless it did, as JS observes, shine a (hyperbolic repetitive dramatized) light on the silliness of existing gun laws. It's a shame the producers didn't see fit to interview some NRA types for rebuttal.
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NARRATOR: Tennessee has some of the loosest gun laws of any state. No permits or licenses are required to purchase a shotgun, a rifle or a handgun.
According to the Washington Post, four states require a permit to buy a rifle or shotgun and eleven require a permit to purchase a handgun. Four states actually require registration of a shotgun or rifle. If memory serves, Tennessee requires a background check and waiting period for some purchases.
Do you think that if you had the toughest gun laws on the North American continent that it would stop these gangsters from having guns? If you do we need to talk. I have this bridge in CA that I can get you a real good deal on.
Emmett, fair enough. Though those two narration sentences you quoted may be accurate, they don't belong together like that, since it implies that Tennessee's laws are among the loosest BECAUSE of the no-permits thing, when in fact there's much more to it.
And Anonymous, no, I don't think that if Tennessee had the toughest gun laws, it would stop these gangsters from having guns. For one thing, there's nothing to prevent people from transporting guns across state lines, so the the nation's gun laws are essentially no stronger than the gun laws of the weakest state. I do think that if ALL states had stricter requirements, it would definitely make it more difficult for these gangsters to have guns.
And yes, I am looking for a bridge. What's your price, and what condition is it in?
"it would definitely make it more difficult for these gangsters to have guns."
No it would create a another black market and another revenue stream for them. We strong have strong national drug laws for cocaine and herion. You should get to know a gangster or two. You'll see some of the real world and how it works. Supply will always meet damand
And yes, I am looking for a bridge. What's your price, and what condition is it in?
It's solid gold in mint condition. For just $3,000,000.00 cash it's yours
If tough gun laws were the solution, then NYC and Detroit would be the two safest cities in the nation. How's that working out again?
Bubba sayz - "If tough gun laws were the solution, then NYC and Detroit would be the two safest cities in the nation. How's that working out again?"
Federal Bureau of Investigation Uniform Crime Reports statistics, 2007:
Violent crime, per 100,000 population:
Nashville - 1,509
New York City - 614
source: http://tinyurl.com/jbmaa
Well, yeehaw cowboy. Just cause we ain't got no learning don't mean we ain't terribly insecure & need our gunz.
Yeah but the parts of town they filmed in are like exactly the same. Haircuts and all.
Another day and another liberal screed about gun control.
Ho hum.
Business as usual.
America's most violent cities (FBI, 2007, per 100,000):
1. Detroit 2,289
2. St Louis 2,198
3. Memphis 1,951
4. Oakland 1,918
5. Baltimore 1,631
6. Atlanta 1,624
7. Nashville 1,509
Tennessee has 2 cities in the top 7 most violent. Thank you Doug Jackson!
I question any stats that don't include New Orleans or DC. I know Detroit has been up there for the last 20 years. New York I can see causation because of Gooliani's tactics he instigated in Manhattan when he was mayor
Also safe and gun crimes per capata may not be related. If you have ever takena a stats class, you know how things can be easily manipulated. Figures lie and liars figure
Them facts make my head hurt too. Who ya going to trust, them socialists at the FBI or your own prejudices?
Yeah you got to believe the FBI. After all it was these brain sugeons us
that told us terrorist had sent Amthrax to all them there congressmen after 911. Oh wait,it turned out to be uhhh, nevermind. Good thing we are just moving forward
The statement the narrator made is factually incorrect, or misleading at least. Tennessee has tougher gun laws than any contiguous State except North Carolina (which requires a permit to purchase a handgun), as Tennessee has its own State form for handgun purchases (including a thumb print) and the TBI performs the background checks instead of using the federal system, so they should be more comprehensive as State law has specific prohibitions on who can own firearms in addition to Federal law.
Tenn. actually has middling gun laws when looked at nationally.
Well, gun-toting Lt. Governor Ron Ramsey did announce that he was courting the votes of Middle Tennessee residents - I just never imagined that when Ramsey was talking about Hispanics, he actually meant the M-13 gang bangers...
http://politics.nashvillepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ramsey.jpg
Crazy, isn't it? The lifestyles the rich & famous live. At the same time I've thought many time how difficult it must be to not have any privacy and always have people and photographers everywhere... all the time. Guess it's one of things where you can't have your cake and eat it too. I think I would much rather have riches and skip the fame part,
