Tuesday, July 14, 2009

News You Can Use: Gun Nuts Turn to Pith for Advice

Posted by Jeff Woods on Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM

click to enlarge Chuck E. Cheese: The safest place to wear your handgun until we straighten out a few little legal issues.
  • Chuck E. Cheese: The safest place to wear your handgun until we straighten out a few little legal issues.
Hello all you gun nuts out there, finally it's the day you've been waiting for. So go ahead, strap on your firearm, put on your best Clint Eastwood face, head for your favorite drinking establishment and make believe you're a badass! There's only one problem: The police might arrest you. According to a lawsuit heard for the first time yesterday, the guns-in-bars law is so vague that you can't really know whether you can carry your weapon inside many places. Does this business earn most of its revenue from the sale of food or booze? That's the question, but who can tell? To help, John Harris, director of the Tennessee Firearms Association, is offering advice to his members. "We tell them if it's a family restaurant, you ought to be fine," Harris said after yesterday's court hearing. "If you feel comfortable taking your minor children in, you ought to feel comfortable (taking your gun in). If you would not feel comfortable taking your minor children in there, maybe you ought to think twice about taking your firearm in there." OK, so Chuck E Cheese is definitely cool. But try to keep your weapon holstered as you go down the slide.

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Unless Chuck E Cheese serves alcohol, it was legal to carry there before today.

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Posted by wizardpc on July 14, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Chuck E Cheese does, in fact, serve alcohol. How do you think parents get through three-hour birthday parties with 30 screaming kids and dancing puppets?

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Posted by whois on July 14, 2009 at 11:07 AM

You can get drunk at Chuck E. Cheese, Wizard. It's the only way to survive the experience.

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Posted by Woods on July 14, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Am I missing something or did this Harris nimrod compare a handgun to a minor child? Does he suckle his Glock 10?

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Posted by Ben on July 14, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Interesting Woods doesn't post a picture of himself like most other "journalists". I wonder why? I'd like to see him say half this nonsensical bullshit in front of Nikki Goeser or anyone else that has been a victim of violent criminals.
Cowards with Blogs.

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Posted by Kevin on July 14, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Ben says:
Am I missing something or did this Harris nimrod compare a handgun to a minor child? Does he suckle his Glock 10?
Posted On: Tuesday, Jul. 14 2009 @ 11:30AM
- Yes, you are missing something, which isn't surprising. Learn to read. Harris has more integrity than you or any of these "journalists" at The Scene.
BTW, there is no "Glock 10". The earliest model is the model 17.

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Posted by Anonymous on July 14, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Kevin said:
Interesting Woods doesn't post a picture of himself like most other "journalists". I wonder why?
Because he doesn't want to get shot )while playing whack-a-mole).

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Posted by Shawn on July 14, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Anonymous says:
"BTW, there is no 'Glock 10'. The earliest model is the model 17.
Posted On: Tuesday, Jul. 14 2009 @ 11:36AM
OOOOH! IN YOUR FACE, LIBTARD! HO SNAP.

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Posted by The OG DG on July 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Shawn says:
Because he doesn't want to get shot )while playing whack-a-mole).
Posted On: Tuesday, Jul. 14 2009 @ 11:43AM
- What complete and utter nonsense. The reason he doesn't show his face is because he doesn't have the balls to say any of this stuff in person. If confronted by someone like Nikki Goeser he would fold like the coward that he obviously is. She was at the hearing yesterday. Why didn't he talk to her or offer his condolences?
I think intelligent people know why...

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Posted by Anonymous on July 14, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Jeff, you may want to stay out of Indiana if you're afraid of guns. In Indiana it's legal for someone with a carry permit to carry a pistol into a bar -- not just a restaurant that serves alcohol, a bar -- and to drink while in possession (cf. Indiana Code, Title 35, article 47). It has always been that way. And we can carry in our parks too. Indiana is not awash in blood, and neither will you be, so grow up.

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Posted by A Hoosier on July 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Feast and capitalize on Mrs. Goeser's personal tragedy, Kevin! By all means, feast!

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Posted by Hargrove on July 14, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Feast? Meaningless rhetoric.
Capitalize? Then I guess Nikki herself is "capitalizing" herself, huh?
Imbecile.
Not one of you cowards has the guts to say any of this to Nikki's face...Pointing out what is truth is simply being honest. Something you and your flunkies would know very little about.

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Posted by Kevin on July 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM

You fucking morons, I threw out the Glock 10 so you dickless wonders would get all offended. Thanks for proving my point.
Why don't you guys buy some Enzyme and grow real dicks, go pay for some pussy and relax? We're all tired of hearing you bitch because you can't get laid.

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Posted by Ben on July 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM

I would just point out that 50% of the faces that accompany every post on this blog are Jeff Woods's.
Please, gentlemen, glance to your right.

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Posted by Aunt B. on July 14, 2009 at 12:36 PM

"HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO PUT A STATE FAIR-STYLE CARICATURE ON A 'FAKE' WANTED POSTER, LIBTARD?????!!11 1ONE"

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Posted by The OG DG on July 14, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Well, true enough, but I will say that the one time I met Woods, my first thought was "Holy shit! He looks just like his picture."
It's a really good likeness.

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Posted by Aunt B. on July 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Ben says:
You fucking morons, I threw out the Glock 10 so you dickless wonders would get all offended. Thanks for proving my point.
Why don't you guys buy some Enzyme and grow real dicks, go pay for some pussy and relax? We're all tired of hearing you bitch because you can't get laid.
Posted On: Tuesday, Jul. 14 2009 @ 12:11PM
- And you wonder why your side lost and continues to lose with such intelligent banter...

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Posted by Anonymous on July 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

The photo of Chuck E Cheese should have depicted him holding a rifle. You guys can superimpose, right?

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Posted by Anonymous on July 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM

"- And you wonder why your side lost and continues to lose with such intelligent banter..."
Oh, yeah, Anon., it was because of many hours thoughtful and reasoned debate in the state house by elected representatives who kept their minds open to all arguments, produced a well-crafted piece of legislation.
It was remarkable when Rep. Campfield gave a eighty-five minute disquisition on the 2nd Amendment's introductory dependent clause. Watching him struggle with reconciling the rights of citizens with the idea of "well-regulated militias was an inspiration to civic-minded Tennesseans. Campfield acknowledged that we do, in fact, legitimately regulate the right to bear arms when we restrict minors, convicted felons, and the morally impaired from owning or possessing firearms, yet the civic responsibility entrusted to the citizenry implies social responsibility-- that, to wit, an armed citizen will not drink while bearing a loaded firearm.
It was yet another triumph for the most celebrated deliberative body in the world, the Tennessee Legislature. Our side lost, but honest debate ensured that the public interest was served.

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Posted by The OG DG on July 14, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Uh, Kevin, in case you haven't noticed, there's a drawing (and a very accurate one) of Woods on every page of Pith.
You gonna hunt him down? I know where he lives.

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Posted by Jack on July 14, 2009 at 3:20 PM

"Imbecile.
Not one of you cowards has the guts to say any of this to Nikki's face...Pointing out what is truth is simply being honest. Something you and your flunkies would know very little about."
Point, set, match to my daddy Kevin. I'm not really sure why he even bothers debating you libtards. And he doesn't need to hunt Woods down. Daddy humiliates him on this blog daily with his brilliant debate tactics. Put that in your crack pot and smoke it, libtards.

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Posted by Kevin Jr. on July 14, 2009 at 3:37 PM

As a both a liberal and a long-time gun owner (I like Kimbers), the tone of this debate makes me sick. The problem of waving victims at each other, as if they were bloody shirts, is that both sides can do it, and neither side makes any sense. Rage is not helpful in winning this argument.
As I read the Ben Goeser story, the gunman was subdued by UNARMED men, unfortunately after he killed Mr. Goeser. Some have made the point that Ms. Goeser could have shot the gunman, if only she'd been allowed to have her pistol with her. That's certainly possible, but it's also possible she, or Hank Wise, could have hit innocent bystanders in an exchange of gunfire. Had that happened, and its entirely plausible, we'd be talking about more than one innocent victim, and more than one grieving family.
I don't understand how anyone can argue that permitting guns in bars and restaurants would do anything but increase the chances of shots being fired there. Even at seven yards (the range at which police practice firing their handguns), it is entirely possible to miss a human-sized target, particularly when the shooter is under stress. If there's any place worse to have stray rounds buzzing around than a crowded bar, I can't think of where it would be.
I agree with very few decisions out of our Supreme Court recently, but I think the Supremes got it right when they found the 2nd Amendment confers an individual right. But even the Roberts Court acknowledged that the wearing and carrying of arms can and should still be reasonably regulated.
Our legislature has, in its wisdom, spoken on this issue. Unless someone can convince a court somewhere that the General Assembly overreached its authority, we're gonna to be stuck with this law for a while. Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail in the meantime, at least in the bars, if not in the blogs.

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Posted by Mark on July 14, 2009 at 4:19 PM

"As a both a liberal and a long-time gun owner"
Brah,hah, hah!!!!! My head is spinning from that laugher. Whoa, wait a second Kevin Jr, compose yourself. I just about fell out of my chair. You libtards keep acting like the world isn't black and white, but is some kind of blurry gray. We freedom lovers see the world for what it is- very clear, as the founding fathers and Jesus intended. And they would all agree with me that owning guns and being liberal are not compatible.

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Posted by Kevin Jr. on July 14, 2009 at 5:00 PM

"And they would all agree with me that owning guns and being liberal are not compatible."
Then they -- and you -- would be mistaken. I am a liberal, and I do own everything from Peacemaker clones, to 1911s, to assault rifles.
Why do you find it so hard to believe that someone who cherishes individual freedoms, including your freedom to call people you don't know nasty names, would also cherish his own freedom to own firearms?
Maybe people aren't "blurry gray," but they are certainly more complex than you seem to believe.

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Posted by Mark on July 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Reflecting back on Chicken Little, the only mass shootings I have heard about in the last 36 hours have been patrons in a restaurant shooting water guns at each other in protest of the new law. That kind of maturity really impresses the General Assembly.

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Posted by John Harris on July 15, 2009 at 2:10 PM
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