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Oh shit, is all of June a federal holiday now? Does this mean I can go on a monthlong vacation to San Francisco or Miami?
God forbid if you're a gay Muslim.
And to those of you who will inevitably complain about the author or the Scene attacking Christians I want to set the record straight. He isn't attacking Christians per se, but demogogue-type fundamentalist Christians. As a Christian, I'm sick and tired of the face of Christianity being people like Davis, Robertson, or Dobson. It's people who focus on gays when it's doubtful that any self-respecting gay person would be caught dead in his church. But there are people struggling from drug and sexual addictions, divorce, adultery, and a host of other problems. And so much time and energy get wasted trying to accomplish goals through political action instead of what they should be doing, which is changing hearts and minds and reaching out to people who are hurting. That's why people like Davis get so upset that Obama is president. He knows his side is losing politically and he's lashing out. But that last statement that I made about losing politically- that's why Christianity is declining. Because too many of it's most vocal people put all of their focus in that, and alienating so many young people in the process.
Also, in regards to chris1974, leftists pretending to be Christians is pretty hilarious. Way to hedge your bets...lol
"that's why Christianity is declining. "
Um, where the heck are you getting that? Christianity is doing nothing that could be considered "declining". ..
I'm pretty sure the Bible is also against MURDERERS, too. Isn't Maury Davis a convicted murderer who got out of a TX prison because he got saved?
None other. I pulled the Dallas Morning News clips on the murder.
On January 26, 1975, according to an account of the trial, Jo Ella Liles of Irving, Texas showed 18-year-old Donald Maurice Davis and a friend a house across the street from her that she was renting out. After they stepped inside, Davis pulled a knife, slashed her throat and stabbed her in the side, leaving her to die on the floor of the vacant property. A postman found her that afternoon.
Davis has said many times that he was on drugs at the time of the murder. Yet press coverage of his trial made no mention of drug use. The Morning News reported that Davis' lawyer sought to prove he was insane at the time. It quoted Davis as saying on the witness stand that he couldn't stop himself from killing the woman and did not know why he did it. "He said he believed he may have been possessed by a demon," the newspaper reported.
Convicted of first-degree murder and given a lengthy sentence, Davis served only eight and half years in prison. (There was a nationwide moratorium on the death penalty at the time.) I have been unable to learn anything about the circumstances of his early release.
I saw him on TV once preaching about the time that his very young son came to him crying about some problem he was having. Davis told him to quit his crying and be a man. I consider that incident to be an example of parenting at its worst, but Pastor Davis used it on TV to illustrate some Christian principle. God the father, indeed.
Kevin, what does being left of center on some political issues have anything to do with whether a person is a Christian or not? Come on dude, do you have to be in attack mode at all times. I knew a guy who was extremely conservative and was an atheist. Labels are real convenient Kev but don't always fit. And Christianity is in decline, at least in the U.S. Church attendance is down and the number of people considering themselves non-religious is way up. I won't bore people to death with hyper-links because a quick Google search will find you the information you need but here is one:
http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/03/survey-finds-christianity-on-the-decline----even-in-the-south.html
A good book to read about the issue is called Unchristian by David Kinnaman and Gabe Lyons.
So Kevin, yes, I am for some limited gun control. I oppose the death penalty. And I am an environmentalist. But I am also a Christian, although not a fundamentalist, literal thinking one.
Let's not forget Europe! No one goes to church there, and their churches are all kinds of awesome. Architectural styles spanning hundreds of years, a relatively liberal attitude (if you're protestant) and, if you're lucky, the churchard will be scattered with the corpses of plague victims and have tremendous, touching monuments to WWI victims. History is fun.
Believe it or not, Kevin, there are a lot of lefty Christians, like the Unitarians, sects of the Lutherans, the Methodists, the Episcopalians, all the church people who came down for the civil rights fight. They're just not that prominent around here.
But I think what Chris is referring to is all the stories lately about declining church membership across the board, even for evangelicals, who have experienced monster growth over the past few decades. I don't know if this accurately speaks to declining Christianity, since it's hard to poll people who think of themselves as Christians but aren't officially members of a parish, but there has been a decided drop in official church membership.
I mean to say they're awesome even if you're not terribly religious. The not terribly religous don't have a lot of reasons to pop in to church in the states.
And just to follow-up Kevin, please enlighten the other readers and show them how my "leftist" comments can be considered unChristian. That is your challenge Kevin. (And try not to make stuff up.)
Don't feed the trolls, Chris. Or indulge them. I don't know. Kevin is kind of fun.
All my nerd time on the internet has given me some insight into trolldom. Here's a sample of how it can and should be done:
"Methinks the democrat party and rePUGlicans are both bowing down and licking the boots on barrrak HUSSEIN obama's islamofascist feet. I don't pay taxes like the rest of you sheeple and think all Xtians should be Xecuted.
:)"
1. "Methinks"
2. Dismissive, reductive names for those ideologically opposed to you that they do not self-identify with
3. Accusing The Other of demeaning subservience
4. Fixation on a non-issue
5. Flat-out lies and made-up nonsense
6. A statement indicating that the writer is better than you are
7. Condoning violence against The Other
8. "Ironic," dickheaded closer
I just won the internet. You're welcome.
I had no idea that you could get the whole month of June off if you're GLBT, is this part of the Gay Agenda we're always hearing about?
Ashley, you just totally channeled Kevin. Now go shower.
"I had no idea that you could get the whole month of June off if you're GLBT, is this part of the Gay Agenda we're always hearing about?"
Yes, and the powers that be behind the gay agenda use people like Maury Davis to spread the word. He'll be sure to let us know when National Become a Muslim Month is here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...fascist control freaks will say anything to make it look like they aren't what they are...
This Pastor is breathing brimswtone, and causing more hate and fear, when we need understanding and tolerance so badly. Jesus taught us to love one another, especially our enemies. Obama has started us on a path on forgiveness and tolerance...he's got more of an audience than this moron!
Evangelicals= christian muslim.
bunch of radical fundamentalists.
I am so glad to hear a person that finally speaks yhe truth. I am sick to death of everyone trying to dig up dirt on men like him that are so clearly speaking the truth of God. This country was not founded on anything other than christianity, and that doesn't mean the moslem religion, or gay rights and so on and on. God says hate the sin, but love the sinner. You people are so deceived that it is truely sad. It doesn't matter what this mans past is, God uses all kinds of people to deliver HIS MESSAGE. Wake up America. it is time to get back to the basics that this country of ours' was founded upon. I don't believe that you people would know an annointed person of god, IF YOU SAW OR MET ONE. iT IS SICKENING COMMENTS LIKE I HAVE been reading in this blog, that only convict me more that we are surely living in the end times, where people can'i distinguish between truth and deception. Unfirtunately, people only want to hear what tickles their ears, to justify their own sins. God forbid that all of us take a good long look in the mirror at ourselves and than we can really see how depraved we ALL are, and thanks be to our HEAVENLY FATHER FOR SENDING HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON(JESUS CHRIST) that whomever shall believe in him and confesses their sins shall be SAVED!!!!!!!!! Keep on preaching my brother and disregard what these people are saying, we can only pray that GOD WILL OPEN THEIR EYES, AND THEY SHALL BE SAVED WHILE GOD IS STILL LISTENING.
Oh Debbie! You must be one of the sad, weak minded kool-aid drinkers that LOVE Maury Davis. Kool-aid drinker, funny term huh? It refers to the followers of pastor Jim Jones. You know that strikingly handsome man that convienced 1000 people to commit suicide. The power of persuasion. Maury davis is no different.he is a sick sick man that got away with a capital crime. What's 8 years for a life? He has convienced his flock to hate. Hate gays, muslums, and women. So imagine this Debbie, what if maury davis began to preach sacrifice. The slaughter of mothers and grandmothers. It turned out that GOD was pretty good to him after he slaughtered an innocent woman. Maybe his flock should do the same! I can't imagine that anyone of sound mind would agree, but who says believers of maury davis are of sound mind.
It is wrong in the eyes of the Lord to judge someone...BUT people, come on....This guy didnt kill someone in self defense. He slit another humans throat because he was upset. I am sure he has and is forgiven yet it is not someone I want to give my tithe to each Sunday. The man of the cloth lives where? A million dollar home....He is as are so many all abt the money. Christianity is a business. It is and has alway been a known fact that uneducated southern people give more than any other group.....
How many peope has he offered to help that were his parishioner's. Maury is not doing without you can bet your last can of campbell's on that....Guess we all need something to believe in....SO, sad.......
I am so glad that God can forgive and except us all into his kingdom. I am so glad that God sees all of ours sins the same. A liar is equal to an alcoholic, committing adultery is equal to being abusive, and being gay is equal to being a murderer. I am so glad that God gave us all a sound mind and the good book to learn and drawl our own conclusions of what is right and Holy and of Jesus Christ his son. I am so glad that Our Father God gave us a way to repent for our sins (no matter how big they seem to us God sees them all the same)and turn from our wicked ways and except Jesus Christ as our lord and savor.
I am a Christian will always be a christian and as for me and my house we will praise and serve the Lord for he is good and just to for give us. Everyday we may make a step that is not order of God, but down the road he has made a new path that we may follow. He is always standing there with open arms saying come to me my child, I love you and will keep you safe. All I ask is that you follow me no other man or gods for I am the Way, the Truth and the Light.
Please stop hating on those who do not believe the way you and find the love of God that will fill your life with so much joy, peace, mercy and understanding.
God Bless All
Yay! Yay! Yay!
Hooray!!!
"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." -John 8:32 KJV
Now that's what I call good news!!!
You all are a bunch o idiots Kevin and Jamie.... first of all the devil sure has his hand grasped around your throats and your weak minded judgemental wailing tongues. First ao all Pastor Maury does NOT hate Gays or Muslims. He hates the sin just as jesus hates the sin of men who do wrong and do evil.... There is nothing wrong with this. And for the idiots who made the comments about Pastor Maury Davis's past and his murder and mention of an old article on him in Texas. First of all the media Never tells the whole truth. But more importantly Pastor Maury Davis, gave his life to the Lord and asked god for forgiveness and when he got saved and started to serve Jesus well that is what its all about. When you ask for forgiveness Jesus forgives and wipes his slate clean. Pastor Maury, is a godly man wo speaks the truth and all you idiots who are filled with vengence, hate and the devil are so blind you are ALL so lost you have no clue what its like to be saved and to get right with God. God does not judge Pastor Maury on his past nor does he sling it at him like all you jealous no brainers do. Let Pastor Maury continue to serve the Lord. He is a good man. But let me ask all of you this. When did you get saved? asked for forgivemness? got baptized? and when have you made a difference in helping others or yourselves to come to know jesus? Stop judging and living for Satan and come to know Jesus and let him wash your sins away and you just may turn over a new leaf and live a better life. We all have a past but when God forgives he forgives and buries it and so should you. We are to pray, ask for forgiveness and to love one another . Why don't you try to be e reflection of Jesus to someone today?
and someone wrote "his country was founded on nothing but christianity"...pick up a book dear sir.
"The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind ... to filch wealth and power to themselves. [They], in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ"
Thomas Jefferson
"Let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religions"
George Washington
"Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins ... and you will have sins in abundance. I would not dare to dishonor my Creator's name by [attaching] it to this filthy book [the Bible]"
Thomas Paine
It is only by seeking the truth that we can come to a understanding of life.While it is impossiable to understand some things of God in the flesh,the holy spirit can reveal all things to those who seek the truth.Yes we are to love God fisrt,and like unto the first commandment,love thy brother.I ask all to listen to your words,do they justify your lifestyle.there is no justification for sinful living.You are either in or out of the will of God.If you truly Love God,you will love the truth,it may not comfort you because you will be under conviction to change your life.There is always room for improvement in the flesh.
Maury Davis serves God, and doesn't care much to be polictically correct. He's a man of God and if you don't like him, so be it. I don't think he's seeking your approval anyways. God is using him to reveal the evil of Islam and the sin of homosexuality.
Please don't forget that this pastor absolutely hates Catholics!!! His staff and followers will tell you up front that those of the Catholic faith and their saints will never be admitted to Heaven and God will banish them all......The man preaches hate and is not as he pretends to be!! Be afraid of Maury David, very afraid.........
Pastor Davis is the real thing. A real example of God's Redemption at work in a real man, HE has a real past that too many people Want him to relive daily. He is a real Repentent man, a real Right Conservative a real Patriot, with a Heart for Our Troops, A Restored, Delivered, Healed and Forgiven man. Whose accountibility of the past serves to remind him of how far God has brought him. God has made him into a Real Leader, a true man of God. A former real Punk murderer, God has changed him ratically over time by His Word, His Love and His Holy Spirit. Because God IS GOOD, and you too can receive that same Forgiveness and Restoration by Receiving Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour.
Save me....from what you say? From something far worse than a murderer, How about From your own arogance, How about From your own great plan, How About From the your I already know for sure position...& anything & everything goes attitudes, OR MAYBE from your own lack of the knowledge of GOD. The Bible reminds us IT is the Only True Holy Word of The Most High God. God himself says, My People perish for a lack of knowlege..that's not tv, retoric, school, or college knowledge...It's for a lack of God's Knowledge. You and me are forgiven in the same manner by God, exactly as we forgive those who tresspass against or even kill us or a loved one as horrible as that is.
The Fear of God IS the Beginning of WISDOM. SO Choose wisely, choose life, choose forgiveness, choose to beleive God--choose to obey the WORD OF THE Lord God King of the Universe, The Most High, THE GREAT I AM.
the crime pastor davis did when he was a boy,
should not be a shock to you, if ? you have ever read the bible from cover to cover.
read about moses who murdered god used to lead his people & paul who wrote 2/3 of the new testament which murdered, our past & present
when god forgives us of our past he never holds it agaisnt us.in the present like man.
and the folks on this page Im thankful on judgement day i will answer him not man.
the bible teaches that we all have sinned.
we all have a past,what have done with yours?
The real troubling thing is this ass is making a fortune, living in a million dollar house and has never done a goddamned thing for the Liles family. He is full of crap and all you followers of Maury are morons.
I'll bet he's not real big on preaching a lot of old testament stuff: camels passing through the eyes of needles, etc.
Also, I'm sure if Jesus were walking the earth today, he'd need a million dollar house and a "mega-church" to aid him. Sounds just like old Jesus, doesn't it?
dumb christians ur bibles been changed 100 times so what bible will you choose.... the quran has never been corrupted like the bible like every other year...
i have a friend who has just left this church b/c of his most recent comments in sermons as of lately in church in '10 with hateful comments of calling Obama "the devil" and lots of gay bashing. she left the church in tears b/c she was hurt to know why a "preacher of God" would harbor all this hate to his congregation. To all of these Davis supporters, whats your response to that? is that christianlike? looking at this guys background, he sounds like nothing more than another "pimp in the pulpit"-using religion as a hustle after getting out of jail allthewhile pimpin all you naive souls to finance his million dollar home while some of you all are living paycheck to paycheck. you all are better than me b/c it's no way i could ever attend that church. i just pray that people not be so green and putting all your trust/faith in this human vs the Bible and its teachings. God Bless!
ungodly reporter or whatever knows nothing about pastor davis he speaks the truth tells it how it is and is a true american patriot he saves so many souls with his preaching and is my biggest hero so get your facts straigh i have been a member of cornerstone for 8 years he is not gay bashing racist or muslim hating those are all lies he says things that are TRUE and homosexuality is immorale and unbiblical but you need to back off you are jealous because he doesnt support your king...GAYS
So, we have a felon that was convicted of slitting a girl's throat and leaving her to die, who only served 8 years for said crime, and now has "turned his life around" dedicating himself to spreading the gospel and in the meantime has also enriched himself at the expense of his flock, at least some of whom are probably only just getting by. My question then becomes, what has he done to atone for his heinous crime? Eight years in the slam sure isn't enough. Has he worked in prisons helping criminals like himself to turn their own lives around? Has he started programs for at-risk youth? Has he contributed significant amounts of his income for such activities? Or, does he just proudly wear diamond rings on his soft fingers, a Rolex on his wrist, and drive his caddy to the private club golf course after church? WWJD
You dont listen to what he says, you just use specific words and arrange them anyway you like. This country was founded on God. What he is saying stand for what this country was founded you know freedom and God. Yes we have seperation from church and state in our Government and we say its ok for you to practice your religion but when we go to practice ours we can't because all of you say we have the right but in actuality we don't. Once we start to pray in a public school someone wants to file a lawsuit nobody said you have to participate. Only if you want to. SO tonight I will pray for all of you who has to condem Christianity. I don't care what color or creed or if you are gay or straight or Bi for that matter, I will pray for all of you. Signed by a TRUE GOD LOVING AMERICAN!!!!!! AMEN!!!!!
Maury Davis, I hear him ranting on the radio. So he slit an elderly women's throat for no reason and got out of jail in a few years. And he's conservative? Conservative about what, his own execution?
I ask you, is it okay for a Muslim Country to excute Christians for just being Christian like they do today? If we let this religion take over the United States they will be killing Christians here too. It is time to put a stop to it now before it is to late. I'm glad someone like Maury Davis is standing up to them NOW. I'm not saying all Muslims are bad, but their religion is, and they are too brainwashed to see it. Our law for protection of a Christian's Freedom of Religion is now being turned against Christians. The Muslims are using the name of religion to take over the world and kill anyone else who is not a Muslim. Pick up their form of a bible and read it for yourself. I'm a Christian and poud of it!!!!!!!!
I myself am a member of Cornerstone Church in Madison Tn. Obviously by some of the ignorant statements made I can tell you haven't give this man a chance. I have never heard more of a message ring true than I have at Cornerstone. Our country needs more of our Christian leaders to step up and not bend to the Liberal system at hand. We are a nation conceived from our faith in Christ and biblical truths. Pastor Davis "DOES NOT COMPROMISE THE WORD OF GOD. ". Neither should the body of Christ. I am not tolerate of ignorant individuals with half talk and half measures with no spiritual knowledge and understanding of our history. I believe God's grace is beyond us. Pastor Davis is proof of that. God bless the U.S.A. and God bless Cornerstone Church. W. McClure IV
you can all just shut your mouths. maury davis has one of the most powerful testimonies of any human being alive today. God delivered him from his wicked ways and has annointed him in his name to save thousands of souls and win them for the Kingdom of God. what we need in America is more people like Pastor Davis and less politically correct pricks that we have in the White House and all over this nation. America was built on Christian principles; Maury Davis is just trying to uphold them.
Wow!! There is much passion displayed in these war of words!!! I lived in Nashville for a brief time and was attending a different church, but heard Maury several times on TV - causing me to be late to my church because I would find myself with pen and paper taking notes. It was refreshing to hear God's word preached in such a real and applicable way. There was a fire lit in my life - a surrendering to God. I did not know Maury or his story; preferred small churches, yet I found myself in the congregation at Cornerstone. God's message was preached!! I will never follow a man!!! I heard TRUTH!! I no longer live in Nashville, but am thankful for the awakening in my spiritual life. Rather Maury is real or not, GOD'S WORD IS!!!! God can use even ex cons. Test what he preaches against the Word of God. He preached TRUTH when I was there - and the truth is that this nation is turning its back on our Creator and falling away from moral values. Our families are being destroyed...and if you check history.....that always leads to the destruction of a nation. If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
PAstor Maury Davis..... I love you Pastor. Best pastor and he preaches the TRUTH... BIBLICAL TRUTH. A lot of you whiners do not want to hear the truth and you are so far from God. Nobody is judging but what Muslims stand behind is a culture of Hate & Evil. being a homosexual, gay or lesbian is totally WRONG. We can love all people but the bible says we are to hate the sin of those who do wrong. We have become tolerant in our world today and pastors in the Pulpit are not speaking the truth with boldness. Pastor Maury Davis speaks the truth. So get a life people and get jesus Christ into your life. I am a proud christian to be a part of Cornerstone Church in Nashville & to stand behind Pastor Maury Davis!
Lenette - Your post from June 20, 2009, says "Why don't you try to be a reflection of Jesus to someone today." That same post says "You are all a bunch of idiots." Do you really think that, by saying that, you are a reflection of Jesus? If that is indeed a reflection of Jesus, then I don't think I want to be a Christian.
Lenette - your most recent comment decries the "culture of Hate and Evil." Calling people "a bunch of idiots" sounds pretty hate-filled to me. It sure doesn't sound like loving the sinner, which all you Cornerstone people claim not to do. I think about the only sinners you love are Maury Davis and the people he approves of.
Check out this video of Maury Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGUfvcv7--Q. Maury Davis is giving a sermon to Cornerstone Church about his days in jail as a new Christian convert. He talked about taking a toilet brush and knocking out the front teeth of someone who refused to go to a church service at the jail. And the congregation of Cornerstone Church laughed and applauded! The people at Cornerstone Church are so brainwashed, it's scary. Maury Davis could say or do just about anything and he would still have a whole church full of people willing to take a bullet for him.
These comments take what Maury Davis has said totally out of context. If you really want to know the truth about his life, get on his webiste and listen to his sermons for yourself. He is straight forward but also teaches that Jesus life is based on mercy but that we are to speak up for what is wrong---not the people---the wrong. When you know Maury Davis personally, you'll see that he is very loving and merciful, and says you can make choices to give you a good life and it's never too late.