Monday, April 27, 2009
Hargrove Blackburn and Gore Scuffle
Posted by Brantley Hargrove on Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:11 AM
File this one under grandstanding legislators asking "tough questions" that only end up exposing their head-in-the-sand views on climate change. This one's pretty entertaining and you can hear Gore chuckling in the background as Rep. Marsha Blackburn tries to nail him for profiting from his green investments. Maybe I'm going out on a limb here, but isn't investment just what we need to advance green technologies?
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In a battle of wits with Al Gore, Blackburn is woefully underarmed.
I might also add that this is the first time the congresswoman has been known to question "greed."
Man,I miss all those good ol Al Gore "I'm annoyed by dealing with poeple beneath me" exhales and chuckles.
EXCELSIOR!
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She is as crooked as a dog's hind leg!!
I'd wish she's leave TN and move back to MS!
The sad part about all of this is that a lot of people believe her........she is really doing this country a lot damage with these types of actions.........To her followers please read a little more, pay a little more attention, don't use Fox News as your only news source, and don't listen to her crazy rants!
She gets 40% of her contributions from the oil industry, so when you were paying $5 a gallon she was getting money from them and has done everything to keep it that way!
If there was any integrity let in the media this response fro the arrogant disrespectful punk would be splashed all over every front pager in the country. He lied about what he has put into the non-profit and he show a complete lack of respect for Rep Blackburn. His attitude and answers should be grounds for contempt. A mental gnat who uses abrasive and offensive arrogance to deflect any challenge to his greedy little self, what a buffoon he is.
Fat Albert can chuckle all he likes.
He hasn't accomplished so much as one single thing in his entire life that proves he's any sort of authority on any subject on earth.
Hey Allen and Gilbert, you guys sound like people who are really frustrated because Gore is winning. Maybe is isn't a great authority on the subject. But believe me, the vast majority of scientists who are authorities support what he's saying, not the b.s. of Rush, Valentine, and Glenn Beck.
A complete lack of respect for Blackburn? You've got to be kidding me. She doesn't deserve said respect. She is a complete joke and people in her district who support her should look in the mirror and come to grips with yourselves.
And for a point of clarity, Gore completely got the best of her. I wish we could continue to see that exchange. Blackburn's whole career has been about sticking up for big industry and now, in this instance, she's decrying the fact that certain companies and certain industries are going to profit from it cap and trade? Nice.
" But believe me, the vast majority of scientists who are authorities support what he's saying, not the b.s. of Rush, Valentine, and Glenn Beck. "
Nope - I don't believe you.
First off, you aren't any sort of authority on which scientists are superior authorities on this subject or any other.
Second, when it comes to the theory of man-made global warming, there aren't ANY scientists who are THE authority on the matter because none of them are capable of definitively proving it to be true.
There is no such thing as an "expert" on any subject where the veracity of the claim being made cannot be unequivocally quantified as being 100% accurate by measurement in the physical world.
Sure Gilbert, let's don't do anything because you can't prove it 100%. There's many things that you can't prove 100%. Guys like you are going to be against anything Gore says. Unfortunately, man-made global warming has become a "liberal" issue. So conservatives are going to line up against it every time and get in line behind so-called skeptics. On any other issue that scientists have come to consensus on, everyone will fall in line. If the issue was what was causing some disease, everyone would fall in line. But because any environmental issue has come to be associated with the left, conservatives won't get behind it, earth be damned.
Gilbert sez: "There is no such thing as an "expert" on any subject where the veracity of the claim being made cannot be unequivocally quantified as being 100% accurate by measurement in the physical world."
So where the hell are you getting your "information" from? Certainly not any experts.
Oh, and do you tell your pastor at church that he's full of it because he can't back up what he's saying with 100% earth-bound physical evidence? Scratch that, I mean 1%?
You've got some high standards, and I doubt you live up to them yourself.
She's a dope. Who, at this point in time, is against investment in America? Especially a guy who's kicking the profits to a non-profit?
Global Warming – it’s real simple if you release carbon into the atmosphere it heats the earth. When we burn fossil fuels we release carbon in the atmosphere which heats the earth’s atmosphere, no scientist will deny that. So to say we don’t increase the global temperature is crazy, you would have to also say we don’t emit carbon, which we have done for quite some time now. I’m sure that Exxon and others can find plenty of ethically challenged scientist to say anything they pay them to, but let’s not be ignortant to facts.
As for the right wingers being against anything ‘Green’ this is very scary to me, I work in downtown Nashville and was shocked to see all the TeaBaggers with signs against anything ‘Green.’ I saw a large diesel truck with a sign taped to truck that said “Redneck Hybrid.”
There is a small and hopefully getting smaller group of people that would be against anything that Gore did. Global Warming should not be a political issue!
Allen Barrett says:
If there was any integrity let in the media this response fro the arrogant disrespectful punk would be splashed all over every front pager in the country. He lied about what he has put into the non-profit and he show a complete lack of respect for Rep Blackburn. His attitude and answers should be grounds for contempt. A mental gnat who uses abrasive and offensive arrogance to deflect any challenge to his greedy little self, what a buffoon he is.
BBB says:
I know Marsha Blackburn personally. If anyone deserves to be treated with a complete lack of respect, it's her. She is a political prostitute, and her husband is a strong contender for the Sundquist Trophy honoring the most useless person in Tennessee.
Serious LOLZ: Blackburn: Are you aware of that company?
Gore:(Chuckle) Yes...I'm a partner...
No doubt this former Young Republican (snicker) is only interested in transparency. Speaking of computer models on climate change, I would like to assemble a crackpot team of behaviorists and leading computer experts to create a program that would calculate the likelihood that a member of the Young Republicans will, in fact, grow up to be a giant, pandering douchebag politician.
"Sure Gilbert, let's don't do anything because you can't prove it 100%. There's many things that you can't prove 100%. Guys like you are going to be against anything Gore says"
Yeah there are lots of things that can't be proven - but most of them aren't being used as an excuse for a massive increase in government power over businesses and individuals and massive increases in energy costs that we will all be paying for. So it really doesn't matter about them. This issue IS being used as an excuse for all that so it does matter.
"Guys like you are going to be against anything Gore says."
I'm going to be against anything that places additional restrictions on MY personal freedom and costs ME more money for some "crisis" that they are incapable of proving exists regardless of who is doing the advocating for it.
The burden of proof is on those propsing the existence of something - not those who deny it. No one has to prove a negative.
Indeed those who advocate all these massively expensive government mandates need to not only prove that man-made global warming is real, but that they are capable of quantifyng the magnitude of it, that they are capable of proving that the mandates will be effective AND that they will be less expensive than merely adapting to a warmer earth instead. Not a one of them have been capable of proving any of those things.
"The burden of proof is on those propsing the existence of something - not those who deny it. No one has to prove a negative."
Actually, you've got it backwards. The burden of proof is on the deniers in this instance for two reasons. One is that the scientific community is in near consensus. Two is that the President is supportive of legislation, as is a majority in congress. Unless and until you skeptics can change enough minds, you've got the burden of proof. And don't give me this "I'm against any massively expensive government mandates." Republicans were for that for years with Iraq and other things, so don't suddenly come back with this stuff about being against big government and new mandates.
"Actually, you've got it backwards. The burden of proof is on the deniers in this instance for two reasons..."
Wrong - there are never any reasons why the burden of proof is NOT on those proposing the existence of something.
Your post is about political machinations - not proof of anything or the lack thereof.
"And don't give me this "I'm against any massively expensive government mandates." Republicans were for that for years with Iraq and other things, so don't suddenly come back with this stuff about being against big government and new mandates"
Iraq?
The Iraq war didn't place any restrictions on my freedom. It didn't create new regulations about what kind of light bulbs I have to use, what kind of car I have to drive, what kind of mileage it gets or what kind of fuel or other energy source it has to operate on. And it didn't have anything to do with forcing me to pay for the ramifications of mandating higher-cost so-called "green" energy sources for the cheapest electricy generating source there is - coal. It will have a direct effect of higher electric bills and an indirect effect of higher costs of every other product and service purchased as every business in the country passes those costs on to the customers.
All increases in economic prosperity are tied to increases in productivity. Mandating a switch to higher costs energy sources from lower cost fossil fuel sources in exactly contrary to that and will decrease living standards.
Gilbert, sometimes, in the interest of the common good, government (which is The People, btw) finds it necessary to pass legislation that is protective of the society at large. You can't do whatever the hell you want, nor have you ever had that right. If you want to do whatever the hell you want, move to Somalia, a place without a government. You have the right to bear arms, but you don't have the right to go hunting with a bazooka (or a machine gun). You have the right to drive, but not on the wrong side of the road. You have the right to drink but not drive a vehicle afterwards. Why? Because of the interest of the public at large. It's the same with environmental legislation. I'm so sorry that you will be forced to buy compact flourescents in the near future. I'm so sorry that your favorite car company won't be able to sell you a truck that gets 6 miles to the gallon. It's the price you pay for living in a society that values the health and well-being of it's citizens. I'm happy that our government, including many Republicans, is finally taking climate change seriously. I hope they don't back down this time.
There you go with that circular logic again.
You are inacapable of proving that any of the stuff you or the rest of the greenies want to force on everybody is advancing any "common good" in the first place.
"The Iraq war didn't place any restrictions on my freedom"
Gilbert,
You are very lucky that no restrictions were placed on your freedom, but I have lost a great deal of my freedom!
Freedom of walking, running, and too many other things to list. I lost a leg in Iraq and don't appreciate your attitude comments.
While I realize you may have to give up something to help the country and earth, realize how many soldiers lost much more than a leg in Iraq you selfish piece of shit!
"There you go with that circular logic again."
Circular logic? It's called Democracy. I don't need to prove 100% anything. I am merely supporting my government's right to finally do something about climate change. I think it's a problem. You don't, that's fine. Not everyone will agree with anything the government does. Your view is it's curtailing your freedom. But, again, if it is going to make you terribly unhappy to be "forced" to use compact fluorescents or drive a vehicle with decent gas mileage, you have bigger issues and I'm not qualified to give you advice on that. Or as you have pointed out, I'm not qualified to have an opinion on anything.
"Circular logic? It's called Democracy"
Nope.
You are again conflating political machinations with empirical proof of the necessity of doing something.
Gilbert is pretty much a dumbfuck, I've never written that word before but it just fits him!
Marsha Blackburn is an elected hooker, who ever pays what she asks will get what they want!
F' off Marsha!
It doesn't matter whether man-made climate change is happening or not (we can't be sure). Using less energy is always a good thing. Gilbert, you got issues dude.
Blackburn's a twit. (Feel free to transpose that vowel & it still applies). Gore's a douche. Rarely do politicians get to that level without being one or the other.
As a former Music City resident, I find it hilarious that Music City still has a lot of AlGoraniac's mushing about! And to think that these Goraniacs really, really believe that the Goran has actually been anything more than a huge fraud and a Nobleprized liar makes me laugh till I wanta puk...thankfully wiser Tennesseans knew the real Goran when they refused to vote for the fool in the 2000 election.
