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Thursday, February 5, 2009

A Conversation With the CEO of Council of Conservative Citizens

Posted by PJ Tobia on Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:25 PM

I had a conversation the other day with Gordon Baum, the CEO of the Council of Conservative Citizens, a group classified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. You may remember that our own Sheriff Daron Hall gave a talk to the Middle Tennessee chapter of CoCC awhile back and received some flak about it. Baum denies that his group is about white power or hate, and says that they have "black people and non-whites that are members." He even claims that they have a "Jewish rabbi in New York City," among their membership. "But we are, and advocate for, whites," says Baum. And here's where his argument gets a bit, um, weird. He thinks that "the media" ignores blacks who commit crimes because liberals want to coddle them, "in the hopes that they'll behave better." Baum then gives the example of his home county of St. Charles, Missouri. He says that the population of his county and the neighboring St. Louis County are about the same. The difference is that his county has hardly any blacks (the county is "ninety-seven percent white and the rest are Hispanic or Orientals") and zero murders per year compared with a nearly all black St. Louis with a "murder every other day." "What's the difference between St. Louis and St. Charles County?" Baum asks. "It's the race." "Ok," I reply. "But maybe isn't another difference that one county is rich and the other poor? Couldn't that be a reason for the crime?" "I'm not a sociologist," he says. "...We don't have a solution. We don't have a final solution to this problem." Thank God for that.

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When you are pegged as a hate group (rightly or wrongly) using the terminology "final solution" is probably not a good move.

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Posted by Chris1974 on February 5, 2009 at 3:25 PM

His usage of the term 'Orientals' was nice too. What an idiot.

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Posted by Mark P. on February 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Orientals? Two percent of the population is rugs?

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Posted by Ashley on February 5, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Daron Hall actually spoke to the Council of Conservative Citizens, not the Council of Concerned Citizens.

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Posted by JG on February 5, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Wait- I thought talking to them was deemed to be unacceptable. Isn't that all Hall did?

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Posted by NashTeach on February 5, 2009 at 4:04 PM

@JG: You are right sir/madam. I fixed it.

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Posted by P.J. on February 5, 2009 at 4:06 PM

"I fixed it."
"A Converstaion With the CEO of Council of Concervative Citizens"
The fourth letter in "conservative" is an "s" not a "c." And "converstaion" sppeaks for itself.

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Posted by NashTeach on February 5, 2009 at 4:11 PM

"sppeaks"
That's karma for me.

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Posted by NashTeach on February 5, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Of course, he's wrong.
St. Charles County has a population of about 330K with a density of 614 per sq mi.
St. Louis County (which doesn't include St. Louis the City) has a population of 1 million, with a density of 1,970 per sq mi.
In 2000, St. Charles County had 7 murders, to St. Louis County's 10.
Now, St. Louis the City does have a higher murder rate, 124 in 2000...but they have a density of 5,745 per sq mi.

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Posted by Sean Braisted on February 5, 2009 at 4:21 PM

I believe him. That cat is too stupid to be that committed to anything. Even being a racist.
Where do these fucking people come from?

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Posted by captainkona on February 5, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Also, Dude, 'Oriental' is not the preferred nomenclature

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Posted by Walter Sobchak on February 10, 2009 at 12:07 PM

That’s nice to finally locate a website where the blogger is very knowledgable.

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Posted by Michael on December 21, 2009 at 8:44 PM
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