Wednesday, January 28, 2009
Education / Hannan More on MBA's Cheering Section--Adorable Pets Edition
Posted by Caleb Hannan on Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Last year, during a basketball game against University School, MBA chanters unleashed this beaut: "Jew-S-N! Jew-S-N!" An obvious reference to USN's large number of non-gentiles.
USN boy's athletic director Josh Scouten was happy to point out that, during this year's rematch, both cheering sections behaved appropriately. Which is to say, they yelled and screamed and booed but didn't go over the invisible line of common decency that we all know exists and can best be observed with chants like "Jew-S-N!"
Anyway, at this point we now have two examples of MBA's students pushing limits (as 17-year-olds the world over are wont to do) and Gioia and the rest of MBA's administration pushing back (as adults are supposed to).
Of course, at this point, if you're an MBA, Ensworth or USN student or parent, you've probably stopped reading and are already writing some comment about how the other guy is gay or stupid or gay and stupid. Such is the way of petty feuds.
So I'm just gonna put my hands up and back away slowly now. You do what you wish. And pay no mind to the picture below. It's simply my own attempt at distracti...OMG, adorable pets!
Now what were we talking about again?
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I think you meant to write; "as 17-year-olds the world over are WONT to do" just FYI.
This is nothing new -- MBAers and Harpeth Hall girls and Lipscomb students and BGA ones, etc. etc., have been shouting "Jew-S-N" since the 1970s. And worse. What is nice is that Vince Durnan is actually doing something about it instead of sitting on his hands.
JF -- class of '84
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I spy one! When all else fails, bring up the past. Seriously, what in the hell is the point of this article? You should be fired. You belong at this place: www.nationalenquirer.com. It's obvious that you hate MBA and it is obvious that you can't write objectively.
Um, can anyone defend MBA here? Seriously. And, maybe next time we can have the complete story from the start.
is it offensive if you call someone gay when they really are gay? i know we're not supposed to call fat people fat, or black people black.. i'm gonna play this one safe.
Have the admissions offices of Ensworth and USN sent MBA thank you letters yet for making their jobs so much easier?
Caleb, part of me is inwardly screaming "These are stupid high school kids...WHO CARES about them?!?!"
But another part of me is quite pleased to see you quickly return to the subject after all the poorly-written calls for to quit your job (lol!) because, OMG, you dared not bow down at the altar of overrated pretension factories.
Caleb.. come on sonny lets get some real news out there. This is getting sad... for you. Your write like a 12 year old gossip girl. STOP WRITING ABOUT THE KIDS, WHO AT 17 YEARS OLD RECOGNIZE YOUR POOR JOURNALISM, AND FOCUS ON GETTING A LIFE AND A JOB.
"Caleb.. come on sonny lets get some real news out there."
Right, since 300 people and counting have posted to tell us no one cares.
Can someone explain why the MBA folks are so upset when the original story basically whitewashed what their fans had done?
It took other posters do flesh out the relevant details.
"It took anonymous cranks too cowardly to go on the record to spew a bunch of unverifiable accusations, most posted under circumstances that verge on identity theft."
Fixed that for you.
Ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, everybody thought that this is just the way it is; the sky is blue; MBA students shout about Jews at USN basketball games. For me the big change is that a) someone is finally writing about it and b) that the school actually seems to care.
That in itself is real news, BTW. And it is hardly in the past, alas.
Thanks Mr. P. The original item makes it seem like the only person interviewed was the headmaster.
Congrats Caleb. You just got the Nashville Scene the same amount of attention in about three days then it has gotten in a year. You write for a Nashville gossip paper about high school students. Ha Ha go off yourself.
Caleb, you officially are the most retarded person i have ever encountered in my life. This information is a load of crap , you are basing this information off of what somebody told you which may not be true. Unless you were there and can actually say this happened with witnesses than i will believe you but right now u are a piece of crap. You are a journalist for a gossip section about high school students......get a life dude.
Hey Caleb! Good job trying to get reactions out of people, especially by mentioning events that are not pertinent! I think we are all thoroughly pissed off at you now, so maybe you should just skip town before we all (Ensworth, MBA, and USN) burn your house down.
It bears repeating:
MBA -- you're over.
It is not necessary for EHS parents OR its students to point out your shortcomings. Your students do a great job of that on their own. Loud and clear. Belligerently.
Guess what? It's a whole new world out there, where arrogant bullies are seen as, well, just arrogant bullies.
Caleb, you officially are the most retarded person i have ever encountered in my life.
Besides your parents?
Cuzz get your head out of your own ensworth sheltered ass. you have to admit its kind of weird when Caleb seems to be picking on MBA only when there are much worse things done by other schools. i smell a rat.
Mr. Hannan,
Lay off this story. To persist in attempting to haze MBA and its reputation is nothing but tasteless. Surely there are better stories for you and your blog to pursue than high-school athletic events that occurred more than a year ago. Resorting to such tactics is no more than crap-digging. For the benefit of your own reputation, I would highly recommend taking your pooper-scooper elsewhere.
MBA is not over! MBA forever and for always will be better than ensworth. Both schools have shortcomings Ensworth Edward Duncan, academics,and recruiting players that cannot read. MBA's just seem to all get published. I smell a rat. How much is Ensworth paying this Guy?
You smell your classmates. These posts make both your schools look like petty, illiterate pussies. Now the whole city knows how little education your daddies' money buys. Congratulations, fuckwad.
Appears the primary arrogant bully here is the reporter (trying to call attention to himself). Is he 17, too?
who is this cause i will whoop your ass. how are we illiterate ? you are the ones that have athletes that cannot even read. MBA is expensive but it provides the best education in the STATE! I also believe you are ones paying for shit for education when Ensworth is the only private school in the state that didnt publish its test scores. Also wait how many national merit semi finalists did yall have? That sounds sheltered to me.
WHAT NEXT!!!
CALEB HANNAN, the author of these MBA hate articles, needs to grow up and get a life. You are an awful journalist, and YOU DISRESPECT THE ENTIRE NASHVILLE SCENE.
who is this cause i will whoop your ass. how are we illiterate ?
Whoever wrote this wasn't me. Maybe because my daddy didn't send me to Ensworth or MBA, I know how to spell, capitalize and punctuate.
I'm just thankful they're leaving us MNPSers alone for a day or two.
While the racism charge is a bit much, a school that has touted for generations its mission to raise "gentlemen" is subject to criticism when evidence points to the contrary. It's not a major deal, but the MBA folks so outraged need to realize just because you are private doesn't mean you are free from public criticism. Some of your kids are not acting like gentlemen. The headmaster clearly gets it; either help him make them gentlemen or let him simply do his job while you get over yourselves.
Go Hume Fogg. Our sports are shit, but when your Ensworth and MBA kids graduate, we'll give them jobs.
It's a good thing those Ensworth kids are all little angels. Those damn MBA hypocrites may as well give in to this, because obviously Ensworth has collected a group of wonderfully pure individuals. MBA students should be getting their job resumes together, I suppose, because it's quite apparent that Hume Fogg students are kind enough to offer employment to these poor MBA hypocrites.
Yeah you luckily got into MBA because it's pretty apparent that you don't know how to spell or type correctly!
First off I am surprised that no one has mentioned how successful mr hannan has been at his job. The website has had alot of hits from which Nashville scene has been getting bundles of money. Congrats.
This is old news. Everyone has been making derogatory cheers towards the opposing team for ages. That is nothing special. It is COMPLETELY irreleavent that tavares is black. Perhaps your assumptions that he was made fun of because of his race are the real problems. The fact that you assumed that that was the cause of said cheers reflects upon you as racist? If you were even to think about the cheer (hooked on phonics) you would note that it accuses illiteracy, which I am sure is not true, with the intended insinuation that he is a recruit. Anyhow, mr hannon has done is job well, despite his lies.
Oh! So YOU were the one that transferred from Hume Fogg to MBA and raised the IQ at both schools! Thanks!
What person cant read at ensworth? pretty sure thats physically impossible to go to school and not be able to read bud. You cant jump into highschool without being able to take one lower class...
MBA has alot to learn- and for starters, they need to accept that ensworth is on the rise to become the best High School in the State. Far above MBA. But i understand that is a big pill for MBA to swallow
1MBA is the best school in the state.
2 HF will forever and always be a public school and its academics will suffer because of it.
3 Ensworth will never be as good as MBA.
4 I know for a fact there a tenth grader and ensworth who reads at a second grade level.
5 For the love of god stop playing the race card.
6 i am pretty sure your typing ability is not the item that gets you into college.
7 Hume Fogg parents are currently employed by MBA parents.
8 Ensworth does contain all angels i can name several people one being edward duncan.
9 How are we hypocrites?
10 Ensworth is on the rise to being the most retarded, arrogant, expensive, and ass hole school in the state.
"2 HF will forever and always be a public school and its academics will suffer because of it."
Public school education does not equal bad education. Period. There are public school kids who could run academic circles around any private school kid you have to offer. They get into colleges that are just as good, they score highly on the SAT's, etc.
Because the public schools overall test scores include the whole range of students, they'll never look as good as private, but there enough fantastic teachers in the public school system that anyone who *wants* a good education can get one. That's not to say there aren't problems, but the attitude of private=better in education is simply not backed up by facts.
"2 HF will forever and always be a public school and its academics will suffer because of it."
Oh God. Let the floodgates open.
"6 i am pretty sure your typing ability is not the item that gets you into college."
You'd better hope not.
Please, please people. We can be better than this. We are all Nashvillians, many of us close neighbors. Many of our kids (private, public, home-schooled kids, will grow up to marry one another and many will work in offices together. Many of us go to churches together. As my 14 year-old daughter pointed out, "I don't get it Mom. Many of these families have more in common than they have differences. Why are they being so ugly to each other?" ALL the kids at ALL schools are Nashville's future. Kids will make mistakes. We all do. it scares me that so many parents are out there waiting to pounce when a child makes a mistake so that they can somehow try to prove that the school the child attends is bad. Yes, we should hold kids and school administrators accountable but let’s help kids learn from their mistakes and not crucify them for making them. For the sake of our community, please stop this ugly bickering. Let's focus on our own school and our own kids and not worry what someone else is doing. All these schools are good schools. Clearly, MBA does not want to be like Ensworth and Ensworth does not want to be like MBA or they would not have added a high school. Nor does USN want to be like the others. There is room for all three and many other good schools in Nashville each serving its own niche, so let's work together to educate our kids. Let's support every child at every school in Nashville in reaching their full potential so that Nashville will be a place our children want to come back to when it is time to raise their own families. Healthy competition is good but the personal attacks and incorrect information written in many of these comments are harmful to us all. Please try not to label and try to see each other as individuals. Without enough citizens who have compassion and respect for others and their differences, Nashville will be left behind in this fast changing world.
What about subject-verb agreement, spelling, grammar...? Those sorts of things tend to come up.
For a USN grad's take on the whole mess, read this:
http://goldni.blogspot.com/2009/01/our-own-little-privileged-bubble.html
its funny you can laugh and knitpick at my typing, spelling and grammer all you want. But i truely will be the one laughing when I graduate from Dartmouth and I will be making alot more money than you.
These commenters are all kids,
many of whom are in middle school, and NOT connected to MBA or Ensworth.
Anyone who thinks the bulk of these comments reflects either school is seriously deluded.
Anonymous forums have little worth beyond infantile entertainment.
