Friday, November 7, 2008
Congress / Hicks From the Sticks / Kotz / Politics WTF: Gun Sales Soar Following Obama Win
Posted by Pete Kotz on Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:20 PM
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"But isn't it a little paranoid to worry about your shotgun collection?"
Uuuumh, NO.
Have you read Biden's bill? ANY weapon used by the military(now or in the past) is by definition an assault weapon. That includes most shotguns.
You do know that assault rifles have been heavily regulated since 1934? I am sure you also know that none have been manufactured or imported for sale to the public since 1987.
You do know what you are writing about, don't you?
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He's right....what you call assault weapons, the ones sold after 1987, are all just dressed up hunting rifles. They are the same caliber and same semi-automatic action. The "assault weapons" as you call them are simply outfitted with such things as a bayonet lug, which no one will ever use....hell, if you have a gun, why try stabbing someone...other accessories include a pistol grip(something that would help steady any hunting rifle), a barrel shroud, not unlike the wood forearm on hunting rifles, and a collapsible buttstock(not truly collapsible, only adjustable for length...(it is still there after it "collapses")
The barrel length on these "assault rifles" is slightly shorter than a hunting rifle. This lessens velocity of the projectile, in return allowing for more maneuverability. The magazines on many of these rifles can hold anywhere from 4 roundsto 100 rounds of ammunition depending on the accessory your choose. Most hunting rifles do not provide for detachable magazines, though they still carry 5 rounds in many cases. No ballistics scientist coulddifferentiate between a bullet shot from a "hunting rifle" to one shot from an "assault rifle". The bullet respond the exact same(minus the lessened velocity in the "assault weapon".
The accessories allow greater control, ammo capacity, and real estate for mounting lasers, flashlights, rangefinders, eotechs, night vision, etc...
Other than there apparently "mean" appearance, an "assault rifle" is no different than a hunting rifle except that a hunting rifle has failed to adapt to demands of the hunter. "Assault rifles" utilize design elements created for hunting the absolute prey, humans, thus, the designs have been refined and are equally efficient on deer, hogs, prairie dogs, squirrels, rabbits, coyotes, intruders, criminals, rapists, or a hostile government.
Hey Pete, you know what the difference is between an 'assault rifle' and a 'hunting rifle'?
Aesthetics.
Have you read Biden's bill? ANY weapon used by the military(now or in the past) is by definition an assault weapon. That includes most shotguns.
And .45 and 9mm pistols.
C'mon, you guys know Biden's bill doesn't stand a chance of passing as written, and that anything used for legitimate hunting purposes won't be included. Only congress members in very urban districts could get away with voting for something like at. Anyone who represents hunting country -- which is the vast majority of America -- would get hammered for banning legit hunting weaponry. It's just too much a part of our heritage, whether here or in some place like Michigan. Obama may have won by a landslide, but all those blue Midwestern states will quickly disappear if he starts doing things like this. I just find the alarm goofy, given that basic politics preclude any meaningful gun restrictions.
It's very simple.
Any rifle that does not have a selector switch on it that allows it to fire in a fully automatic mode is not an assault rifle - period.
Maybe someone forgot what the real reason we have the 2nd amendment for.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Why would non-enlisted citizens need to be enlisted? Maybe it's so the government is kept in check and people like Biden have trouble rising to dictator like status. It's also American duty to overthrow a corrupt ruler who threatens Liberty. Conveinantly, people want to forget that footnote exists in the constitution.
Obama specifically told voters on the campaign trail that he's pro-2nd amendment and doesn't want to take away anyone's guns. In Virginia, Sen. Jim Webb, who's an NRA member, cut a radio ad saying he trusts Obama to protect gun rights. Of course, some folks may not believe this, but I think it's largely a case of Republican paranoia about gun-hating liberals.
Umm Emily - just for the record, it isn't Republican paranoia - it is watching how Democrats and Liberals vote and discuss these issues that can easily drive a person to these conclusions. Although Obama changed to a semi pro-Second Amendment stance this year, that doesn't mean most of the heartland is willing to discount his previous 10+ years of being anti-gun.
Your right Emily. I DON'T believe it.
"but I think it's largely a case of Republican paranoia about gun-hating liberals"
Paranoia?
well cops aren't always the good guys. Several cases in the recent past show maybe we should arm ouselves against them. Ever heard the phrase fuck the law they can't arrest us all? For a perfect example go downtown nashville on titans game day and see how all the open container, public drunkeness and disturbing the peace laws go right out the window. Simply put, strength in numbers. Theres no way to control such a crowd. Now imagine a crowd this size with aks. then something could change. but no, we as americans are accustomed to protesting and carrying signs. Pretty weak middle-of-the road eunich bull shit if you ask me.
