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Robin I hate to tell you this but he's not a black man.
Miles Davis was a black man. Albert Haynsworth is a black man. Obama is as much white as he is black (and more so if the whole arab thing is true). Let not get ahead of ourselves.
Hey burrito, I loved the Miles Davis information. Could you give us some more examples of black men?
And what exactly is "the whole arab thing"?
What's the difference between Sarah Pallin and the Panama Canal? The Panama Canal is a busy ditch.
You mean if I'd have just known to tell them my mama was white and my daddy was Arab I could have used the white people rest room back in the day?
Da-a-ng!
Robin
We have not had a "decent" black man before Obama?
I hate to tell all of you, as I learned the other night at a gathering of good friends, most of us have lots of diversity in our close families: racially, developmentally, and educationally. We just don't talk about it. Are we talking about what we wish our country was like or what it is?
If Donal only knew that Sarah Palin never suggested creationism as mandatory subject matter in the public school system... but what is wrong with making it available as an elective? Hmm, who are you to tell me I can't study creationism in a public school setting?
And the issue on abortion... a woman could say "it's my body, my life!" and yet will vehemently deny that same right for her unborn child. Someone has to speak for unborn children especially since over 99% are murdered for reasons other than rape or incest. As a matter of fact, most abortions are convenient... not necessary. I've known a few women that have lived long enough to regret that decision. And, what's more interesting... I don't know any, who've had an abortion, that would recommend the same course of action to their own daughter. If you've had an abortion then you know what I am talking about.
Hey RA,
You can't stop with creationism, oh no, there are many more things that must be forced upon every man woman and child, free will or not. While you are teaching kids creationism, teach them that evolution is a trick. Just like all science and math. Dinosaurs are God testing your faith, they never existed. The Earth is actually only several thousand years old. The Earth is also flat. Everything in the bible, a BOOK WRITTEN BY MEN, is 100 percent true and the word of God even though men wrote it. Abortion is very wrong and all life, including sperm, should be guarded. Men let sperm leave their body everyday and kill life. Millions of tiny pieces of life being killed everyday. They are murderers. Abortion is only the beginning, we need to control the body of ever man woman and child who ever could possibly exist. Masturbation in men is the biggest killer of all because of all that life being wasted. Who are they to say that life begins with the fetus? Is sperm not alive? Does sperm not have a soul I ask? And back to religion, God has the traits of men doesn't he? He is punishing us because an all knowing all loving God would need to punish animals that do not obey. Worship is vanity, and vanity is a human trait, but of course God must be worshiped. God would NEED to be worshiped, that is just common sense talking. Etc. Etc.
Now I know it will be difficult to teach your kids this, with all that proof that science and math bring, but remember that you can use faith as an answer for everything. Scientific liberals will try and say that religion is similar to training wheels. They will say that religion was created by men to control other men. They will say religion was created by men to ease the fragile mind of early man. They will say it was a way to keep peace and a way to create a civilized society. They will say that man is evolving away from a need for religion. But take heart, you always have faith in your back pocket. Faith will always beat logic. And when they say that religion is slowing down the evolution of man, you take heart because you are a white anglo saxon Christian, you are simply better than they are, they just don't know it yet. But we'll show them!
Marvin. C'mon man you're not that daft. Get a book with pictures in it. Preferably of Miles Davis. See how dark he is! That's because his lineage is predominantly West African. People from Africa come in all colors, but the textbook definition of a 'black man' is someone with this phenotype.
NOW look at Barack Obama. My goodness he is quite a bit fairer skinned isn't he? Well that's because his lineage is more diverse. It includes European fair-skinned individuals. In fact, his MOTHER was one of those. And yet, some people like to discuss the historical implications of electing a 'black man.' I'm all for diversity. Hell I'd vote for a blue person from KY if they struck me right. But BARACK OBAMA IS NOT A BLACK MAN. He is multiracial. (So was Bob Marley, if you're keeping score.)
I just think we should be honest with ourselves before all this breathless talk of a new era washes away our common sense.
RA Fan - I like you alot. The part about humanity evolving away from a need for religion- I totally agree.
Oh yeah the 'whole arab thing.' Some people are suggesting that Obama's lineage comes more from the Arab world than Africa. Personally I could care less (although being Sicillian I too have Arab ancestry) but if those statements are true, than he is even more diverse than we thought.
Ultimately pointless but interesting to note.
If Donal only knew that Sarah Palin never suggested creationism as mandatory subject matter in the public school system... but what is wrong with making it available as an elective?
It's already an elective -- at your church. I don't understand why that's not good enough. If you are so concerned about your child learning about creationism, take them to the church of your choice.
If Donal only knew that Sarah Palin never suggested creationism as mandatory subject matter in the public school system... but what is wrong with making it available as an elective?
It's already an elective -- at your church. I don't understand why that's not good enough. If you are so concerned about your child learning about creationism, take them to the church of your choice.
"You can't stop with creationism, oh no, there are many more things that must be forced upon every man woman and child, free will or not"
Yeah - like social security, medicare, regulations telling everbody what kind of light bulbs to use, what kind of cars to drive, gun control laws, "progressive" taxation and thousands of other nanny-state rules, regulations and socialist wealth redistribution schemes.
Liberals have no problem with things being forced on every man, woman and child - just as long as they're the one's who get to decide what those things are.
Where do you live, GM? In a cave? I have a different "view" of your world.
If you have an actual point to make, you'll have to do better than that.
Sock it to em' Gil. Nail up them writs. And sooner or later all those liberal 'muhthuh-f---uhs' will get themselves worked up to where they're ready to burn you at the stake.
I love it! And not because of any personal convictions either--I let them go long ago. Being entertained is lovely.
"And sooner or later all those liberal 'muhthuh-f---uhs' will get themselves worked up to where they're ready to burn you at the stake."
Not to worry.
Their wrists are too limp to strike any matches.
Don't even have a clue who GM is. Is he green? That would make him more attractive.
My question is what about Sarah Palin attracts all the old geezers in the Grand Old Party? She's the trophy wife who can shoot a real trophy and take all your money and smile sweetly? Or is she the kinky middle age woman who cleans up well? She clearly, if she were a he, does not have the experience or education to be POTUS, unless she were a puppet? Oh, I just think I answered my questions.
Burrito: News Flash until now if you had one drop of black folks blood in you, you were considered black. Now you tell me that we can be diverse. Black people have been diverse for years, but no one recognized it. When master took one of the slaves as his sex toy and they produced a child that child was still a slave the white part of his heritage meant nothing. If that slave became a Dr that master still thought of him as a slave and not half white or part of his lineage. But now that a BLACK man is running for president everyone wants to claim him as part of their family tree. As a black female I am aware of the shades of blackness, Halle, Mariah Alicia all are considered black and have white Mothers. We get it!
I understand American history quite well myself, Robin. I am about a quarter Cherokee, so by your logic, because I have at least a drop of Native American blood, then you've all been on MY LAND the whole time. See how that gets us nowhere?
In all seriousness I do not want to insult you or your ancestors Robin. I agree there is a double standard, or at least there was one for many many years. But I don't interpret this as 'everyone wanting to claim him as a part of their family tree."
I interpret this as he IS a part of most people's family tree, and therefor is not what I would classify as a 'black man.'
BURRITO: I guess I am on my own land as my family has lineage to Native Americans also. Thus the diversity of the Black race. And no other candidate has had his lineage questioned as much as this man. See the problem with America is we have not recognized that race purity has long been gone. Everyone has some of everybody in them, we have been mixing races for years. That is why although the title for me people is black it is not accurate as we come in alot of colors. I am an American, born here, work here. My complexion should not play apart in who I am or who he is.