Tuesday, September 9, 2008

Our Readers Have a Whole Lot More to Say on Sarah Palin

Posted by Pete Kotz on Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:53 PM

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A few more words from our readers: Look beyond the one-liners and you won't like what you see Sarah Palin did a bang up job mocking Barack Obama with derisive one-liners, feeding the hungry Republican base with a no-nonsense attack worthy of Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter. She proved she could fire up the converted with her spunky misrepresentations and falsehoods and still project the image of a normal "hockey mom." What she didn't do is delve into the specifics of policy issues. There is a good reason why. Sarah Palin favors an outright ban on abortion and opposes it even in the case of rape and incest. She believes creationism should be taught in public schools but not sex education. She is iffy on the whole 'evolution' thing. She is very friendly with Big Oil and doesn't believe humans contribute to global warming. She recently called the war in Iraq "God's task." Hardly a protector of the First Amendment, she tried to ban some books from the library while mayor of a small town. Contrary to her reputation as a reformer and at odds with the views of her running mate, she's a big believer in earmarks getting millions of dollars from them during her stint as mayor. She didn't mention any of that in her speech. Instead she made fun of Obama and offered up stock generalities and the usual party platitudes. It is ironic that she and others dismiss Obama as so much lofty air and no substance. Contrast the very specific laundry list of policies Obama detailed in his acceptance speech with the mean spirited and empty rhetoric she spewed forth with such aplomb. Her words were written by George Bush's speech writer. Looks like he finally found someone who could really deliver them. Donal Hinely Springfield Finally we can choose a decent black man I just don't think they get it! We are in debt by President Bush and he gives $1 billion to Georgia, not in the South, but the one in Russia. Let's spend as much money before we leave as possible. Palin suggests that Republicans have been patriotic in good and bad times. Oh, so they were happy about the lynching and the mistreatment of the minorities that have worked hard to make this country what it is today. No wonder there was only a handful of black delegates at the convention. Where was the rest of America? Is it still only a white America? What about the foreclosure rates, jobs leaving this country, unemployment, more people without healthcare and our young people dying in a war that does not seem to see an end? When will they get it? As a black citizen of this country, I am finally excited about the fact that America has considered a black man as worthy to sit in the seat that so many white men have sat, even if they were not always good or right. America, wake up! This is a very critical election and we need to vote for change and not a repeat performance of George Bush. Robin Huff Nashville Too much weird conservatism for me As a fervent Obama supporter, I found myself captivated by Sarah Palin's speech at the Republican National Convention. She is charismatic, and charming. She is young, energetic, and smart. I had to quickly reassure myself that she was preaching to the choir, and that John McCain's decision to choose her as second in command for our country, should he be elected, was a move to hold on to the far right faction of the party. It's scary enough to see such a physically frail individual as McCain trying to convince us that he is the man to lead our nation for the next four years. Scarier still is the idea that, God forbid, if he were unable to fulfill his duty as president, Palin would find herself in the Oval Office. Allegedly, she will only support abstinence programs for sex-ed in schools. I'm sorry, but that didn't do her daughter any favors.She has tried to ban books from the library. She is another big oil proponent, even to the detriment of the beauty of her own state. And she doesn't believe that human activity plays a role in global warming. I can't imagine her presiding over the Senate, let alone taking the oath as President. The agenda that she will support in Washington scares me. We don't need another four years of Republican policy and politics that encroach on civil rights, environmental progress, and common sense. I wish better for Alaska, too. Tracy Randolph Sewanee I don't want to lose my right to choose As a Republican, Sarah Palin fits right in. Just like most she tends to stretch the truth a bit about what she has actually accomplished as governor of Alaska and former mayor of a small town. This, unfortunately, is common in politics. But I as a woman, I do not want to see a woman's right to choose taken away by her support and efforts in an overturning of Roe vs Wade. And anybody that does not support sex education in our schools, in this day and time, is living with their head under a BIG rock. Maybe some sex education might have prevented the teen pregnancy in her own family. MIllie Petty Cane Ridge The same old drill, drill, drill Last week we were formally introduced to the new GOP lacky, Governor Palin of Alaska. Although her speech was quickly re-tooled for a woman, it included the tired old liberal bashing we've become accustomed to ala Rove. I was a bit excited about the prospect of a fresh, new voice. How sad to me that the voice neglected to include any positive change that the GOP may choose to champion after the Bush-Cheney debacle. Drill, drill, drill (to continue breaking Exxon record quarters I guess?) seems to be the one thing they've latched on to with zeal - aside from their Obama bashing. Good luck hunting that dog this election. Robyn Aagesen Old Hickory Do we really want this woman? Do we really want a vice-president who hates America so much she joins a secessionist party, and then, while governor, tells them to "keep up the good work"? Do we really want a vice-president who says terrorist attacks on Jews are God's punishment? Do we really want a vice-president who says the unnecessary Iraq war is "God's work"? Do we really want a vice-president who lied to us about her record the first time we met her, and has done it every chance since? Do we really want a vice-president who puts her state before her country, and Big Oil before her state? Do we really want a vice-president To Nowhere just a heartbeat away from the Oval Office? John Roberts Old Hickory

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Robin I hate to tell you this but he's not a black man.
Miles Davis was a black man. Albert Haynsworth is a black man. Obama is as much white as he is black (and more so if the whole arab thing is true). Let not get ahead of ourselves.

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Posted by burrito on September 9, 2008 at 4:16 PM

Hey burrito, I loved the Miles Davis information. Could you give us some more examples of black men?
And what exactly is "the whole arab thing"?

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Posted by Marvin on September 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM

What's the difference between Sarah Pallin and the Panama Canal? The Panama Canal is a busy ditch.

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Posted by noprisoners on September 9, 2008 at 8:45 PM

You mean if I'd have just known to tell them my mama was white and my daddy was Arab I could have used the white people rest room back in the day?
Da-a-ng!

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Posted by BoydBBiggs on September 9, 2008 at 8:56 PM

Robin
We have not had a "decent" black man before Obama?

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Posted by Maggie on September 9, 2008 at 9:20 PM

I hate to tell all of you, as I learned the other night at a gathering of good friends, most of us have lots of diversity in our close families: racially, developmentally, and educationally. We just don't talk about it. Are we talking about what we wish our country was like or what it is?

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Posted by Not Who You Can Label on September 9, 2008 at 9:46 PM

If Donal only knew that Sarah Palin never suggested creationism as mandatory subject matter in the public school system... but what is wrong with making it available as an elective? Hmm, who are you to tell me I can't study creationism in a public school setting?
And the issue on abortion... a woman could say "it's my body, my life!" and yet will vehemently deny that same right for her unborn child. Someone has to speak for unborn children especially since over 99% are murdered for reasons other than rape or incest. As a matter of fact, most abortions are convenient... not necessary. I've known a few women that have lived long enough to regret that decision. And, what's more interesting... I don't know any, who've had an abortion, that would recommend the same course of action to their own daughter. If you've had an abortion then you know what I am talking about.

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Posted by RA on September 9, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Hey RA,
You can't stop with creationism, oh no, there are many more things that must be forced upon every man woman and child, free will or not. While you are teaching kids creationism, teach them that evolution is a trick. Just like all science and math. Dinosaurs are God testing your faith, they never existed. The Earth is actually only several thousand years old. The Earth is also flat. Everything in the bible, a BOOK WRITTEN BY MEN, is 100 percent true and the word of God even though men wrote it. Abortion is very wrong and all life, including sperm, should be guarded. Men let sperm leave their body everyday and kill life. Millions of tiny pieces of life being killed everyday. They are murderers. Abortion is only the beginning, we need to control the body of ever man woman and child who ever could possibly exist. Masturbation in men is the biggest killer of all because of all that life being wasted. Who are they to say that life begins with the fetus? Is sperm not alive? Does sperm not have a soul I ask? And back to religion, God has the traits of men doesn't he? He is punishing us because an all knowing all loving God would need to punish animals that do not obey. Worship is vanity, and vanity is a human trait, but of course God must be worshiped. God would NEED to be worshiped, that is just common sense talking. Etc. Etc.
Now I know it will be difficult to teach your kids this, with all that proof that science and math bring, but remember that you can use faith as an answer for everything. Scientific liberals will try and say that religion is similar to training wheels. They will say that religion was created by men to control other men. They will say religion was created by men to ease the fragile mind of early man. They will say it was a way to keep peace and a way to create a civilized society. They will say that man is evolving away from a need for religion. But take heart, you always have faith in your back pocket. Faith will always beat logic. And when they say that religion is slowing down the evolution of man, you take heart because you are a white anglo saxon Christian, you are simply better than they are, they just don't know it yet. But we'll show them!

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Posted by RA Fan on September 10, 2008 at 12:04 AM

Marvin. C'mon man you're not that daft. Get a book with pictures in it. Preferably of Miles Davis. See how dark he is! That's because his lineage is predominantly West African. People from Africa come in all colors, but the textbook definition of a 'black man' is someone with this phenotype.
NOW look at Barack Obama. My goodness he is quite a bit fairer skinned isn't he? Well that's because his lineage is more diverse. It includes European fair-skinned individuals. In fact, his MOTHER was one of those. And yet, some people like to discuss the historical implications of electing a 'black man.' I'm all for diversity. Hell I'd vote for a blue person from KY if they struck me right. But BARACK OBAMA IS NOT A BLACK MAN. He is multiracial. (So was Bob Marley, if you're keeping score.)
I just think we should be honest with ourselves before all this breathless talk of a new era washes away our common sense.
RA Fan - I like you alot. The part about humanity evolving away from a need for religion- I totally agree.

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Posted by burrito on September 10, 2008 at 9:16 AM

Oh yeah the 'whole arab thing.' Some people are suggesting that Obama's lineage comes more from the Arab world than Africa. Personally I could care less (although being Sicillian I too have Arab ancestry) but if those statements are true, than he is even more diverse than we thought.
Ultimately pointless but interesting to note.

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Posted by burrito again on September 10, 2008 at 9:20 AM

If Donal only knew that Sarah Palin never suggested creationism as mandatory subject matter in the public school system... but what is wrong with making it available as an elective?
It's already an elective -- at your church. I don't understand why that's not good enough. If you are so concerned about your child learning about creationism, take them to the church of your choice.

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Posted by Melody on September 10, 2008 at 9:48 AM

If Donal only knew that Sarah Palin never suggested creationism as mandatory subject matter in the public school system... but what is wrong with making it available as an elective?
It's already an elective -- at your church. I don't understand why that's not good enough. If you are so concerned about your child learning about creationism, take them to the church of your choice.

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Posted by Melody on September 10, 2008 at 9:49 AM

"You can't stop with creationism, oh no, there are many more things that must be forced upon every man woman and child, free will or not"
Yeah - like social security, medicare, regulations telling everbody what kind of light bulbs to use, what kind of cars to drive, gun control laws, "progressive" taxation and thousands of other nanny-state rules, regulations and socialist wealth redistribution schemes.
Liberals have no problem with things being forced on every man, woman and child - just as long as they're the one's who get to decide what those things are.

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Posted by Gilbert Martin on September 10, 2008 at 11:00 PM

Where do you live, GM? In a cave? I have a different "view" of your world.

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Posted by martian on September 10, 2008 at 11:08 PM

If you have an actual point to make, you'll have to do better than that.

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Posted by Gilbert Martin on September 11, 2008 at 8:18 AM

Sock it to em' Gil. Nail up them writs. And sooner or later all those liberal 'muhthuh-f---uhs' will get themselves worked up to where they're ready to burn you at the stake.
I love it! And not because of any personal convictions either--I let them go long ago. Being entertained is lovely.

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Posted by W D Humpfree on September 11, 2008 at 12:33 PM

"And sooner or later all those liberal 'muhthuh-f---uhs' will get themselves worked up to where they're ready to burn you at the stake."
Not to worry.
Their wrists are too limp to strike any matches.

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Posted by Gilbert Martin on September 11, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Don't even have a clue who GM is. Is he green? That would make him more attractive.
My question is what about Sarah Palin attracts all the old geezers in the Grand Old Party? She's the trophy wife who can shoot a real trophy and take all your money and smile sweetly? Or is she the kinky middle age woman who cleans up well? She clearly, if she were a he, does not have the experience or education to be POTUS, unless she were a puppet? Oh, I just think I answered my questions.

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Posted by martian on September 11, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Burrito: News Flash until now if you had one drop of black folks blood in you, you were considered black. Now you tell me that we can be diverse. Black people have been diverse for years, but no one recognized it. When master took one of the slaves as his sex toy and they produced a child that child was still a slave the white part of his heritage meant nothing. If that slave became a Dr that master still thought of him as a slave and not half white or part of his lineage. But now that a BLACK man is running for president everyone wants to claim him as part of their family tree. As a black female I am aware of the shades of blackness, Halle, Mariah Alicia all are considered black and have white Mothers. We get it!

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Posted by Robin on September 12, 2008 at 12:35 AM

I understand American history quite well myself, Robin. I am about a quarter Cherokee, so by your logic, because I have at least a drop of Native American blood, then you've all been on MY LAND the whole time. See how that gets us nowhere?
In all seriousness I do not want to insult you or your ancestors Robin. I agree there is a double standard, or at least there was one for many many years. But I don't interpret this as 'everyone wanting to claim him as a part of their family tree."
I interpret this as he IS a part of most people's family tree, and therefor is not what I would classify as a 'black man.'

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Posted by burrito on September 12, 2008 at 3:48 PM

BURRITO: I guess I am on my own land as my family has lineage to Native Americans also. Thus the diversity of the Black race. And no other candidate has had his lineage questioned as much as this man. See the problem with America is we have not recognized that race purity has long been gone. Everyone has some of everybody in them, we have been mixing races for years. That is why although the title for me people is black it is not accurate as we come in alot of colors. I am an American, born here, work here. My complexion should not play apart in who I am or who he is.

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Posted by Robin on September 13, 2008 at 3:55 PM
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