Tuesday, September 1, 2009
Cream Calendar Them Crooked Vultures: Supergroup Feat. Josh Homme, Dave Grohl & John Paul Jones to Play War Memorial Oct. 5
Posted by Adam Gold on Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:12 PM
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I have a feeling anything with Michael Anthony and/or Sammy Hagar is going to suck ass balls. I tip my cap to you for putting bassist in quotation marks in regards to Michael Anthony, Gold. Now John Paul Jones, that dude is a fucking bass player.
Fiddle Dee's right, Gold. You truly must not have testicals if you're hesitant about listening to an album recorded in 2009 that features both Joe Satriani and Sammy Hagar. Grow a pair so that Chickenfoot might shrink them into oblivion!
So, why do you guys have to take sides on this? chickenfoot AND those crooked vultures BOTH SUCK!!! Gold, did you even look at the youtube footage you posted?
Boring as hell....even john paul jones looks bored.
And you've seriously nicked your reputation 1) if you think josh homme has been an innovator , and 2) if you think michael anthony isn't a real bassist. michael anthony merely does what a bassist is supposed to do. hold it down. he's one of the best, in a different way than JPJ, but still one of the best at what he does.
Both of these bands are disappointing, though i have to totally condemn dave grohl and JPJ for hooking up with that wannabe Josh Homme...
I would argue that Songs for the Deaf is one of the finest rock albums of the past 10 years, if not longer. Granted, the two beyond that are a bit of a letdown but that album is pretty much entirely solid from top to bottom.
I also think it's a little premature to judge Those Crooked Vultures prior to any actual recordings being released. There are some youtube snippets (that aren't live) and the whole thing may end up being a total disappointment but I think it's safe to say it's too early to tell.
As for Chickenfoot - as much as I have no desire to listen to it, I think it's a smart business move and probably really fun for all of them to play together. And the people that ARE into it probably absolutely love it. Score!
Rated R, S/T and Songs for the Deaf are all great. The last record is one of the strangest things to be put out on a major label this decade. I didn't realize Michael Anthony was such a sacred cow. I will give it to him that he was a great harmony singer in VH, however, someone should have to pay for the "Running with the Devil" bass line.
Gold, you're one of those Berklee guys, right? well, you guys wouldn't know restraint if it hit you on the head. Michael Anthony is no sacred cow, but the guy grooves and knows how to lay back, note-wise and groove-wise. And he doesn't cock his head with his mouth open as I've seen this one portly local drummer do.
This love of QOTSA is quite revealing, in that it shows why at least a few of Nashville's local music impresarios
wouldn't know good rock music if it bit them on the a$$.
Dizamn. Ya'll get personal with these posts.
For what it's worth (and that's not much), I saw Them Crooked Vultures at the Metro last month and they effin' killed. Having only heard the songs once, it's hard to say much about the writing, but the formula really works. It reminded me of QOTSA with math-ier riffs and more adventurous song structures. These guys in particular do it comfortably and the odd phrases don't sound forced. It may not change your life, but I think the new record will be well received; certainly more interesting than recent Foo Fighters releases. I know I can't wait to hear it.
I went to Berklee but I am NOT one of those Berklee guys. The cats of which you speak don't listen to or Respect The Clash and have never even heard of Television. They hold Dream Theater in higher regard than The Beatles and consider Diane Warren the world's greatest living songwriter. Guilt by association is an ugly thing, don't do it.
I can vouch for Gold's non-Berklee-ness. Besides the fact that he hung out with the Mass Art kids, he has never tried to convince anyone that Jaco Pastorious was worth listening to or played in a casino cover band.
Damn, my beef with Michael Anthony is that he is just a boring player to my ears. But, I also happen to think Van Halen's music is not for me.
It's not some need for all the music I like to be complex, shit I love Charlie Parker right along with No Age, it's my need to listen to music that interests me.
So someone thinks Josh Homme sucks and Michael Anthony is awesome. That is beyond belief. Its like saying, well he plays bass, so he is supposed to suck, therefore he is good because he is awful. Doesn't make sense.
You can't tell anything about this band from this U-tube piece of crap. I'm prepared give anything JPJ does a real chance.
If you defend Michael Anthony and criticize Josh Homme in the same post, I have to wonder, and I'm a boring bassist myself.
QOTSA can be uneven, but when they get it right they're as good or better than anybody else out there. Their rhythmic sense expanded my appreciation of hard rock.
Plus they had Will Ferrell onstage doing the cowbell bit when they played SNL so that gets them something. Add Mark Lanegan from Screaming Trees and their drummer being the ax-cult-leading villain from Cobra starring Sylvester Stallone, and it's a hell of a formula.
I guess a more controversial question would be what's the difference between Josh Homme and Jack White other than a color scheme?
honestly as far as modern rock goes, audioslave and velvet revolver are two of the better bands IMO (foo fighters too for that matter) and anyone who judges TCV poorly based on this video alone is a tool cuz the sound quality isn't very good and..... JOHN PAUL JONES! Have enuff respect for him to hear the band properly before making a judgement.
It's too early too tell on either of them, but I'm pretty damn sure Chickenfoot will suck complete ass. There's nothing possibly redeeming about that combination other than Chad Smith, but he's a studio whore anyway. Who hasn't he drummed for?
Them Crooked Vultures appear to suck though (even the name). I mean, Homme is amazing in Queens and Eagles of Death Metal. Dave is the best drummer around currently and for quite some time now. JPJ was good with Zeppelin. Are they good together though? I don't think so. At least, I haven't heard anything yet that would change my mind.
Everything so far sounds like QOTSA scraps. I'd probably think it was okay if it was straight QOTSA. The solos and stuff are boring though. JPJ is from such a different era, I just don't think improv is good with that mixture. We'll see though, I'll find out it Nashville.
(side note: Why is Homme smiling? Does he ever smile? I usually only see him berating audience members at shows. That alone has to prove there's something weird about this supergroup)
Main UNDERLYING difference between Jack White and Josh Homme is that when Jack is on the music is surprisingly tight and well focused (despite the occasional change in timing outta nowhere).
When Homme is on it's much more adventurous. It's still tight in some manner I suppose, but the music is less "in and out and over" and more "let's dick around in the studio a bit longer and see what happens".
I don't know if that is a good description of what I mean or not...
I am only sad that Chris Cornell is berated by way of Audioslave in this post--in my very humble, one of the best singers in the last 20 years. Ah well, no matter.
Did anyone else have trouble buying tickets for this mornings presale? I don't know what happened, but it's working great now and I just bought two. The presale ends tomorrow (password: agape) so buy them before Saturday!
Emily you are a saint! TPAC's website is shit for ordering tickets. It was a ridiculous task. I assumed that they sold out the presale tickets yesterday since it took 5 minutes just to tell me there were no tickets available. They don't even tell you how much the show is before you try to purchase. I went on the other day to see how much STS9/Maserati tickets are and it took 5 minutes just to find the price. I like that they've taken Ticketbastard out of the loop with their ticketing system, but at least the 'bastard has a relatively easy to use system.
Anyway, I just went on and got two tickets, so thanks. And for anybody else trying to get them, the promo code that I had was VULTURES, and it worked also.
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