Thursday, August 27, 2009

Axtresses: Great Lady Guitarists (and Their Favorite Recipes)

Posted by Tracy Moore on Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:11 PM

click to enlarge The Great Kat, lady shredder
  • The Great Kat, lady shredder
Reviews are hitting the streets from theaters for the rockumentary It Might Get Loud, which (we pointed out already) debuted on the festival circuit in Toronto last year. It was partly filmed in Nashville, and it was directed by the dude who also made An Inconvenient Truth. From what I've read, it's a look at three generations of guitar virtuosos--Jack White, Jimmy Page and The Edge--or as one reviewer put it, "[a] very fine documentary about the electric guitar and the men who play it best." Elle Magazine watched it, and responded, "...as good as it is, we couldn't help but think, Why no female guitarist in the bunch?" You may think it's a well-covered question, but it's still worth asking, because it's still an area where women aren't recognized at anywhere near the level men are. So, why no female guitarist in the bunch? Why on Rolling Stone's top 100 list of the greatest guitarists of all time, is there only Joan Jett--whose ubiquitous presence on these lists always feels a little token-ish to me--and Joni Mitchell? Where's shred queen Katherine Thomas (aka Great Kat)? Where's MJ's touring gee-tarist Jennifer Batten? What does it take to get on this list? Write cool parts? Innovate? One or the other, depending on who's voting? Because Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper is no Eddie Van Halen, and he managed to make in onto the 100 greats, yet there just wasn't a single space for great female blues guitarist Memphis Minnie. So Elle made a list of their own top lady electric guitarists, and it has some usual suspects--Joan Jett, of course. And some ladies I was happy to see mentioned, like Carrie Brownstein of Sleater-Kinney. But it also had some interesting and cool additions, like Marnie Stern. (They, too, left off Memphis Minnie, but they also left off Bonnie Raitt, which is fine by me.) Either way you distort it (heh), lists are innately limited little concoctions--for all the "accepted" dudes they usually revere, there's a ton of guitarists I love who never get mentioned--Joey Santiago is always an easy example. And the debate about why there's no female Jimi Hendrix is a nuanced one. (I'll admit, I have a thorny relationship with this very question.) Why do talented girls need more encouragement, while thousands of talentless boys seem to need to be told to please get off the stage? Girls rock camps continue to sprout up (or books guiding young women to unleash their inner rock person) proving that young women still need a lot of encouragement to pick up an instrument. Lists continue to circulate proving that list-makers still need a new criteria. I've had multiple conversations with women in town about secret female guitarists--girls you probably know who sit at home quietly ruling an instrument who can't find the courage to play out. I know we have a ton of nerdy dude readers, so I ask you: What gives? We're well past any real obstacle to women rocking, right? I think the Shakespeare's sister argument--that if a Shakespeare had a sister as talented as he was, she'd never have been allowed to write in the first place--isn't true anymore as a solid analogy for the rock world. So have women had enough time to catch up? Are the standards so male-centric that women can't possibly succeed by those rules?

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gal from the bridges is a really good guitar player. so is kelley anderson. angela messina too.
my favorite female guitarist is joni mitchell. and carol kaye is one of my favorite bassists, male or female.

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Posted by luke from character on August 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM

And where's Mother Maybelle?

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Posted by Cato on August 27, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Female musicians just aren't as masturbatory with their guitars as guys are.

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Posted by She Who Must Be Obeyed on August 27, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Maybe if people would stop highlighting the female experience in music and just accept and portray them as artists in their own right, the division wouldn't be as striking. It's really annoying to read about "women in rock" for me because that stance presupposes that it is a movement rather than someone's singular artistic voice.
I find the artists I gravitate to also reject the idea that females should be singled out. It's a pretty commonly held view in underground circles that I've been around, and Nashville has many ladies who fucking ROCK without giving too much thought to the fact that they're in a male-dominated field. And a bunch of those girls do their thing better than most of the guys anyway.
Not trying to single out your coverage of this Tracy, but I'm talking about mass media portrayals in general.
I've always thought Ani Difranco's a great player even though I don't like her songs that much. KIM GORDON. Lita Ford. Nancy Wilson should be at the top just for "Barracuda" alone.

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Posted by HighonLife on August 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Lita and Nancy are givens. Jett perplexed me.

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Posted by cato on August 27, 2009 at 1:08 PM

HighonLife,
You're absolutely right, and those are all really critical points. I think when you have a women in rock issue of a magazine you're automatically ghettoizing the artists, as if what they do is different because they are female.
But you want to highlight excellence, and it always seems more outstanding the rarer it is. So in male-dominated fields, highlighting women who excel is a natural tendency.
I just wish more women were in those lists, so that they could reside among all the greats, 'great' being a thing that transcends gender and allows for multiple approaches and different voices. Putting them in those lists says, "here are great guitarists." Keeping them out makes people need to make lists of great women in art.
Weird, troubling cycle.

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Posted by Tracy on August 27, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Sister Rosetta Tharpe could wail.
@luke: right there with you on carol kaye.

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Posted by Dillon on August 27, 2009 at 2:03 PM

@Dillon +1
Also: Poison Ivy

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Posted by Steve H. on August 27, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Check out Stevie from Laser Flames on the Great Big News. One of the better guitarists around here, and she's a she...

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Posted by laser flame on August 27, 2009 at 2:42 PM

Orianthi.
She was going to play on the MJ tour that never happened. (Also played with Carrie Underwood at the Grammys.)

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Posted by Steve H. on August 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM

I mean, as shredders go.

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Posted by Steve H. on August 27, 2009 at 2:52 PM

...must resist urge to go on anti-feminist diatribe...

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Posted by TobintheGnome on August 27, 2009 at 3:01 PM

Where's Barbara Lynn? Not only was she a lady guitarist/songwriter of outstanding quality, but she was doing it in the early 60s,completely obliterating the line between R&B and pop, a rightful heir to Sister Rosetta's throne.

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Posted by Bawston Sean on August 27, 2009 at 3:07 PM

i think that the pool of girls who start playing guitar in the first place is exponentially smaller to start with because it's almost a 'geeky' thing to do, like video games or dungeons and dragons (in that the best players tend to sit alone in their rooms for hours on end perfecting it), but it's a geeky thing that flips and turns out to be cool and gets you laid, and (every now and again) rich and famous. girls tend away from the geeky stuff early on, though. it just starts out a little geeky, you know? maybe i should just delete this.

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Posted by Larry Mell on August 27, 2009 at 3:16 PM

i think the general sentiment with the "women in rock" thing is, "these chicks are pretty good... for a girl".
Joni Mitchell was a huge influence on Sonic Youth for her alternate tunings. DiFranco shreds with the best, but maybe it's her acoustic preference that also keeps her overlooked.
and basically, The Slits. in general.

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Posted by casio on August 27, 2009 at 3:27 PM

St. Vincent is a badass guitarist, male or female. She gets crazy noise out of her guitar, and she is an innovative player. However, I do agree that having a list of female musicians is part of the problem not the solution. It should just be musicians period, no schism necesarry.

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Posted by ilikeguitarpedals on August 27, 2009 at 3:58 PM

I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Janis Ian. Though she surrounded herself with some of the greatest session players ever on her early albums, if you catch her solo show these days you better be prepared to have her face melted...

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Posted by Bawston Sean on August 27, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Oh, and Eryka from the Heartless Bastards is a fucking bad-ass string slinger, too.

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Posted by Bawston Sean on August 27, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Nashville is home to a really great female guitarist (who can also sing and write songs very well, too): Megan McCormick.
http://www.myspace.com/meganmccormicksmusic
Kelley Deal, Elle? Get serious. Kelley's great, but just go ahead and replace her with Bonnie Raitt already.
I'd say Kim Deal is a good guitarist if she wasn't a bass player. (Her guitar playing in Free Kitten and in the Jim O'Rourke-era Sonic Youth lineup don't show her to be all too great, IMO.) Sorry, but I'm going to be a pedant about the differences between bass and guitar.

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Posted by Glenn on August 27, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Lauren Ellis is the best slide player I've ever seen live. I think she'd give Sonny Landreth a run for his money!

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Posted by Steve Phillips on August 27, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Glenn, i think you meant to say kim gordon...

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Posted by correx on August 28, 2009 at 7:43 AM

I think that Larry Mell comes closest to the truth here, which is simply that there are fewer great female guitar players because there are fewer girls that start playing guitar. It's the same reason that there are fewer great female drummers, rappers, race car drivers, and bass fishermen.
The gender bias in media coverage of rock and roll and a culture that views girls in rock bands as a novelty certainly contribute to the issue, but I think the small pool of candidates is the main issue.

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Posted by simple mike on August 28, 2009 at 9:40 AM

I've seen Janis Ian do her solo thing. She go nuts with that guitar.

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Posted by Striker on August 28, 2009 at 10:23 AM

I can't think of better guitarists of any gender than Carrie Brownstein and Corin Tucker from Sleater Kinney.

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Posted by Nicki Wood on August 28, 2009 at 12:21 PM

And let me just add that the last time Brownstein and Tuckercame through town, both were new mothers. Extra points for rock-n-roll motherhood.

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Posted by Nicki Wood on August 28, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Suzi Quatro? Discuss.

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Posted by Nicki Wood on August 28, 2009 at 12:33 PM

ELIZABETH COTTEN.

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Posted by Dillon on August 28, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Without Suzi Quatro there is no Joan Jett. 'Nuff said.

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Posted by Bawston Sean on August 31, 2009 at 10:16 AM

She was David Bowie's bass player for a long time...

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Posted by What about Gail Ann Dorsey? on September 2, 2009 at 4:28 PM
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