Wednesday, August 13, 2008
Cream Calendar In True Metallikatz Fashion
Posted by Steve Haruch on Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:00 AM
So remember that super crazy secret show Metallica played at The Basement? The one that had the cops rockin'? Well, Damage, Inc. loved their pre-Bonnaroo warmup so much, they've decided to skip Nashville entirely when they embark on their FIRST NORTH AMERICAN TOUR IN FOUR YEARS! In fact, when the MULTI-PLATINUM HARD-ROCK BAND HIT THE ROAD IN SUPPORT OF NEW ALBUM, DEATH MAGNETIC, the closest they'll get to Grimey's is Little Rock. But they will be playing at Cell Phone Insurance Company Bank Corporation Arena in such urban hotspots as Moline, Ill., and Tulsa, Okla. Full diss after the jump.
Metallica's upcoming North American tour dates are as follows:
With support from Down and The Sword :
October 21 Glendale, AZ Jobing Arena
October 23 Albuquerque, NM Tingley Coliseum
October 25 Kansas City, MO Sprint Center
October 26 Des Moines, IA Wells Fargo Arena
November 1 Portland, OR Rose Quarter
November 3 Salt Lake City, UT Energy Solutions Arena
November 4 Denver, CO Pepsi Center
November 6 Omaha, NE Qwest Center
November 8 Moline, IL iWireless Center
November 9 Columbus, OH Schottenstein Center
November 17 St. Louis, MO Scottrade Center
November 18 Tulsa, OK BOK Center
November 20 Houston, TX Toyota Center
November 22 Little Rock, AR Alltel Arena
November 23 New Orleans, LA New Orleans Arena
With support from Lamb of God and The Sword:
December 1 Seattle, WA Key Arena
December 2 Vancouver, BC GM Place
December 4 Calgary, AB Pengrowth Saddledome
December 7 Edmonton, AB Rexall Place
December 12 Ontario, CA Citizens Bank Arena
December 13 Fresno, CA Save Mart Center
December 15 San Diego, CA Cox Arena
December 17 Los Angeles, CA The Forum
December 20 Oakland, CA Oracle Arena
With support from Machine Head and The Sword:
January 12 Milwaukee, WI Bradley Center
January 13 Detroit, MI Joe Louis Arena
January 15 Washington, DC Verizon Center
January 17 Philadelphia, PA Wachovia Center
January 18 Boston, MA TD Banknorth Center
January 26 Chicago, IL Allstate Arena
January 29 Uniondale, NY Nassau Coliseum
January 31 Newark, NJ Prudential Center
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Dudes.
Last time we played there, it was a tiny little place. We didn't even have separate dressing rooms, and i kept almost screwing up and saying something about "all you motherfuckers in the nosebleeds"
Screw that. We're going to Albuquerque.
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This makes it sound like it's our fault
they are not coming back through!!
I showered on June 12, swear to God.
Bone it!!!
By the way, this week's Rage Against the Scene is now up at NashvilleRock.net! This week we share our thoughts on Meemaw amongst other things.
Enraged,
Surely. . . . . SURELY nashvillerock.net staff can think of something more interesting and creative to write about. If there are interesting things that the Scene isn't covering, why don't you simply cover them. Provide an alternate outlet. . . instead of whining about the lack of coverage and outlet for your community, why don't you simply create an outlet? Work on your layout, work on being more original, and i'm sure it won't be long before people catch on. Perhaps this stunt is working for now, but that's where it stops. . . I'm honestly not trying to be critical in a negative way. I simply think you can do much better.
Well, if it's any consolation, it looks like they're not playing Atlanta either. Atlanta is a big fucking city.
Who gives a fuck if Metallica plays here,they havn't put out anything good since before that crap album uhh I mean Black Album.Metallica tried the same bullshit record store appearance shows in the mid-nineties when they cut their hair(because they thought metal wouldn't sell because of grunge)and put out one of their many awful albums to come.
headliners at bonnaroo have contracts that don't allow them to play Nashville within a certain time frame
There is a good chance that this is not the complete itinerary. Metallica is known for long touring cycles, and I wouldn't be surprised if a Nashville date gets added to this itinerary or to a later leg in the tour.
Ryan,
Thanks for the well thought out response. You do make good points. We are working to make the site better and the improvements will hopefully be up to par for most. We have some new writers that will be contributing soon and we are working on some ideas that will help provide good coverage for the local rock scene. As for the layout, I'd like some feedback. What's there currently actually has a lot to do with some of the feedback that I received here a few months back. There were complaints about too many ads, way to much flash and animation, and slow load times. So, I stripped down the site and made the content take center stage. What suggestions do you have for improvement?
As for the Rage Against the Scene piece, we plan to continue it as it's gotten a lot of good feedback. While we really do wish the Scene would cover more of the groups that we cover, I guess there's strength in being different between us. It's just a funny thing to do each week because you have to admit that this publication seems to do next to nothing to report on many of the harder rock/metal acts in this town.
Okay, this has been covered, but how can you look at that itinerary and bitch about the lack of a Nashville date and completely ignore the fact that they're avoiding the southeast entirely for this leg? Do you really think they'll just skip, KY, VA, NC, SC (okay, probably), GA, AL, MS (also, probably), FL, AND TN?
I don't think it's a guarantee they'll play here (I for one, am hoping they do, though I doubt it will top their performance last June), but I think this one is a bit premature. Don't you? Let's wait until they announce the Atlanta and Charlotte dates before we get too concerned about the show we seem to be entitled.
Despite this being a bit off topic - I don't understand how a page by page breakdown of 'sarcastic' critcism for the latest issue of the Scene has anything to do with Nashville Rock? Maybe I'm missing the context here but it seems like if you just covered the music portion of the Scene it would all make a bit more sense. I don't see how coverage of Phil Bredesen or The Tomato Art Festival has anything to do with the music writers? If you're trying to light a fire under someone's ass to cover more hard-rock and metal acts, maybe your approach could be more focused.
I agree with Grimey - this posts makes it sound like their super secret show was the reason for their lack of return. I'm sure it's more that they'd have a really hard time selling out the arena because despite NashvilleRock.net's coverage of all things hard rock, the word just doesn't get out about the harder acts coming to town.
"you have to admit that this publication seems to do next to nothing to report on many of the harder rock/metal acts in this town."
That's a pretty sweeping generalization. Sullivan's been doing a good job at highlighting smaller local metal acts as well as touring bands, in addition to covering the underground noise/experimental/house show scene. Which, I might add, your publication has pretty much entirely ignored. I mean, you didn't even cover the Earth show a few months back. Granted they're not local, but if you're into that stuff, I figured that'd be the big one to catch.
While Sullivan does do a pretty good job for what he covers, it's still very different from many of the acts that we cover. The underground stuff is cool but how come straight ahead hard rock and metal groups hardly ever get attention? Deadsun has been working their asses off for years and I've never seen them get attention. Return to Self are working towards a record deal. No attention paid. Ligion got a small amount of attention but it was mostly negative. Framing Hanley has had 2 singles in Top-40 rotation and toured around the country and I've yet to hear a peep from the Scene about them. This is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm only starting with these groups due to the fact that they achieved success in spite of getting no attention from their local paper. There are a boatload of acts that are very talented that haven't gotten that far yet but could use the press. Just my opinion of course.
To be honest, we haven't even gotten into the noise/experimental/house scene because up until recently we didn't have someone that covered that stuff but there is a person possibly coming in to cover that stuff. I don't have a clue as to where to begin with that scene so I won't pretend to be an expert on it. I've been waiting to get someone on board who knows thatscene and the bands better than I do. As I said in the first Rage entry, we're by no means perfect and have a long way to go as a website. We're working towards that.
Chris/Enraged,
Michael has a terrific point: I think your focus should be the music section and not the entire publication. It will strengthen your argument, even if the argument is, "Yet again, the Scene covered bands I don't like and ignored ones I do."
I also have to take issue with the fact that you've pointed out twice now how many pages of advertising there are before you get to an actual story--as if this is a failure of the publication. Ever looked at a magazine? Some of them have 20-40 pages of ads before editorial copy appears. We're not a daily, so you're not going to get a "page one" story in an alt-weekly that actually appears on page one. I realize you might not be aware of this since you run a website, but this is how the magazine world works.
Secondly, you keep saying things like: "Seriously, has there EVER been a local artist featured here?" about the music section.
Fact-checking might come in handy here, or perhaps you just started reading the paper these past two weeks. Local artists have always been a staple of our coverage.
I think what you mean is, "Has there EVER been a local artist [that I like] featured here?"
I assure you, many of us feel the same way about the active rock your site celebrates that you do about scrappy lo-fi mangled pop bands like MeeMaw. You should know as well as anyone that coverage is a subjective art.
All that aside, rock on with the argh-rock coverage.
Okay Enraged, my two cents:
You need to separate the articles of the center column on the main page. At first glance, it's hard to tell which picture goes with which story. Try Title then date then picture then body of story...or something. The pictures or titles should like to something, or you should have a link in the body of the story. You're being link lazy. For example, there's no link to the Lovers and Liars website in your story. LAZY. Don't use the text to explain where the link to the Rage Against... thing is. Just PUT A LINK. For reals. People love links.
RE: "Local Music At It's Best"
"It's" is a contraction of it + is. "Its" is the possessive form. Also, there's no reason to put that phrase in quotation marks...unless it's a quote...a quote with poor grammar...in which case it should say "Local Music At It's [sic] Best" which really isn't very catchy. Anyway, it makes you look dumb.
Also, there's no link back to the main page that I could find from the Rage Against... page. Just make the banner at the top a fucking link to the home page, already. It's a very common navigational tool. Don't make me use the back button because then I feel the need to back up and then refresh so I'm looking at the most updated home page.
From a purely technical / design standpoint you may also want to consider the following:
Don't resize images with HTML. Having to download an enormous cover image of the Scene only to have it displayed at thumbnail sizes (And not even linked) is annoying for the user and a waste of your bandwidth.
Don't make the user click on a promo in the upper left for an article they are reading in a center column. This doesn't even make sense.. if you've got the cover displaying in your news column and a text blurb about what it is, why can't I just click right there?
Add some comments to your site. I understand that may open you up to some Nashville Cream style barrages of idiocy but if you're trying to create a community allowing other people to talk is kind of key.
Ditch the green rounded borders and the collapse functionality in the upper right. Your page design should have clear lines of demarcation based purely on the content being presented, not on giant borders that tell the user "content stops here!"
I'm no pro and this probably comes across as way more snarky than it is intended. I think it's great that you're covering a portion of Nashville hard rock that doesn't get the coverage it probably should but your attitude towards the Scene is overly negative and biting - which is entirely counter productive.
"coverage is a subjective art."
Good point,how subjective is it supposed to be? There hasn't been a story on De Novo Dahl this week yet?I am really surprised,usually you guys write a story when they change their rainbow underwear,gimmee a break.Your paper,particularly the music section,isn't objective enough to claim the "Scene" title anymore.It seems like you guys should just rent the space above "Grimey's" and only cover what goes on in that record store or the "basement" under it.Or have you already done that?It starting to seem like Grimey writes all these articles or owns the paper.
Uh, we're talking about arts criticism, right? And you actually expect it to be objective?
I just did a quick search: the last article printed in the Nashville Scene regarding De Novo Dahl was back in March. As for the Cream's coverage, it's usually links to coverage elsewhere.
Hey guys,
I just wanted to let you know that i'm starting a new web publication called MarginalNashvillePostevertythingthescenecovers.net so that all the bands i like can get coverage. We're working on some great articles about bands that nobody here OBVIOUSLY cares about, but i just wanted to let you know anyway. . . .Just in case you weren't happy with the coverage that you're seeking out by taking the time to log on to the cream everyday.
I'm calling bullshit, Michael. You're a total pro and we all pretty much know it! I mean, I don't even know what demarcation means.
Yeah Matt S.,like they don't write up De Novo Dahl in "the spin" section every time they take a wizz?
I've got an idea for your retarded site, "Enraged." Let other retards post retarded comments so they can just sit on your retarded site and try to promote their retarded sites instead of actually making their retarded sites good.
"Let other retards post retarded comments so they can just sit on your retarded site and try to promote their retarded sites instead of actually making their retarded sites good."
Gee "dengar" thats sounds really familiar,isn't that what already happens on the Nashville Cream site?
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