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      <![CDATA[Of course Social Security alleviates poverty. Dude, what are YOU smoking?<br>
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"Without Social Security benefits, 46.8 percent of Americans aged 65 and older would have incomes below the poverty line, all else being equal.
        
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      <![CDATA[>>Of course government alleviates poverty, if one regards the Social Security system as a government enterprise.<<<br>
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So giving one's $$ back that they've had witheld for 40+ years is "alleviating poverty"? <br>
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Dude, you should SO sell what that is you're smoking.
        
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      <![CDATA[@bb:  Besides an angry Obama sounding like he was born in the ghetto, there's tape of Biden, also with the same affliction. But the funniest is the tape of Hillary sounding like she was raised in deepest Harlem.
        
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      <![CDATA[@CA:  There's an amazing coincidence or you read something wrong. General Motors owes the American taxpayer $27 billion from the TARP funds and you say they have $27 billion cash.
        
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      <![CDATA[whhahhahaha!! and then the cold water from  the jobs numbers to those''improvement numbers'' of robo romney.... the delicious sound  of  butthurt from the neo nazi party is  so awesome...
        
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      <![CDATA[Check your facts Gast:<br>
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From that bastion of liberalism, Forbes- <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2012/09/14/more-evidence-that-gm-is-not-going-bankrupt/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/20&hellip;</a><br>
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Money quote: "GM’s financial profile is strong, with $27 billion in net cash, and strong cash flow."<br>
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And if Mitt Romney isn't trying to make hay out of it, it probably isn't happening. I'd turn off the Phil Valentine dude.
        
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      <![CDATA[@CA :  Sure, Obama's been a roarrrring success. Unless it's General Motors going bankrupt because of union demands, Obama is a business's worst enemy, and that's what's holding down employment.
        
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      <![CDATA["Obama's biggest problem in the debates is that instead of teleprompting a bunch of bobblehead supporters, he's debating someone who actually knows what he's talking about when it comes to business and taxes."<br>
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He may know about business but that's waaaaaaay different than knowing how to create jobs. And his tax plan makes absolutely no sense.
        
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      <![CDATA[Obama's biggest problem in the debates is that instead of teleprompting a bunch of bobblehead supporters, he's debating someone who actually knows what he's talking about when it comes to business and taxes. And judging by the first debate he knows it.
        
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      <![CDATA["It is well understood by social scientists that a large reduction in elderly poverty in the second half of the twentieth century can be attributed to Social Security"<br>
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Elderly poverty, eh?<br>
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A logically silly propostion rooted in the notion that one can point to only one side of a government forced transfer payment and not look at the effect on the other side as if the wealth conferred on the transferees were somehow magically created out of thin air by the government and has no repercussions on anyone else.<br>
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As a demographic group, the elderly in aggregate are the richest in the country.<br>
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And plenty of younger people far poorer are funding ever increasing transfers to that group.<br>
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As this article lays out:<br>
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<a href="http://reason.com/archives/2012/07/23/generational-warfare" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://reason.com/archives/2012/07/23/gene&hellip;</a><br>
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A pertinent quote:<br>
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"Social Security and Medicare, which provide retirement and health insurance benefits for senior Americans, generally without regard to need, are funded by taxes on the relatively meager wages of younger Americans who will never enjoy anything close to the same benefits."
        
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      <![CDATA["If government could 'alleviate poverty' there shouldn't be a poor person left in the country."<br>
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A logically silly proposition rooted in the notion that a remedy that fails to achieve a 100% result is not a remedy at all. It's like saying that a chemotherapy than puts half of the cancers at which it is directed into remission is not a form of cancer treatment.<br>
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Of course government alleviates poverty, if one regards the Social Security system as a government enterprise.
        
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      <![CDATA["Cry baby, President Obama"<br>
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Speaking of cry babies, there's lots of Republican cry babies this morning who don't like the new unemployment figure.
        
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      <![CDATA[Yup, and 30,000 people showed up to watch him read that teleprompter. In Wisconsin.
        
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      <![CDATA["Obama should have seen this as a golden opportunity to pivot into painting Romney as an anti-government extremist."<br>
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      <![CDATA[Cry baby, President Obama, spent all day Thursday attempting to make up for<br>
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      <![CDATA[oh oh bobby guns disliking me!!! and liking anti immigrant  CIS-FAIR-anti la raza mouth piece blowhard  donna locke<br>
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the antichrist is coming wrapped in the american flag and  holding the bible!!<br>
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oohh wait,sweet baby jesus..look at that booty!!<br>
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http://www.missbumbumbrasil.com.br/candida…
        
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      <![CDATA[>>Obama I think suffered from the misconception that most people are following this race closely<<<br>
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No, he suffered from not having his teleprompter giving him his lines.
        
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      <![CDATA[meanwhile <a href="http://538.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">538.com</a> has mr obama at winning the race  at almost 97 %..only a fool ala gast or bobby squirt gun  would bet the etch a sketch millionaire   could win, even with the lies we  witnessed last nite...<br>
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<a href="http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[Neat. Five minutes now to edit or delete.
        
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      <![CDATA[I didn't watch the debate. I guess I am not "stupid," or I knew how it would come out.
        
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      <![CDATA[@bb:  There's nothing to indicate that Romney wouldn't adopt part, or even all, of Ryan's plan, but what does it matter? The one thing no one wants to face is that some day, because of the debt we're in, the piper will have to be paid and the common man will suffer for it.
        
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      <![CDATA["Because stupid people watch more television?"<br>
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Ingleweird,<br>
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That was certainly true back in 1960 when people who watched the Nixon / Kennedy debate on tv thought Kennedy won while people who listened on radio thought Nixon won. <br>
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I think all Presidential debates should be done on radio or using sock puppets for tv.
        
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      <![CDATA[Oh my.... many of us "right wingers" seemed to enjoy the debates; even CNN stepped up and did the right thing.<br>
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As for the humbling of Nahville's best amateur pamphleteers and bloggers, well, the silence is curious.. I expected at least some kick back, but it never came.
        
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      <![CDATA[You've got to imagine that writing even the few begrudging compliments he did, bb threw up a little in his mouth.
        
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