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      <![CDATA[to nospam who said in defense of Ringling:" In any business, does it make business sense to harm one of the key benefits to your business? Does it make sense to do anything but take the best care of that element of your business that puts money in your pocket?
        
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      <![CDATA[I know it's a little late for this considering this thread died three years ago, but I am appalled at some of these comments. So PETA is a little over-the-top...I get that.
        
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      <![CDATA[Ringling goes on trial next week in Washington for violating the Endangered Species Act by abusing elephants.
        
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      <![CDATA[@amy: Your ignorance on the issue is being exploited the entertainment of Web surfers.<br />
@Jack: When did you stop beating your mother with a lead pipe?<br />
That comment to Jack is stupid and in bad taste, but it's equivalent to the pro-PeTA comments on this thread. You can't prove a negative, but the claim itself poisons the discussion.<br />
Claims of torture abound, but as Barry points out: the anti-circus bunch is so far up the butts of the circus trying to prove allegations of torture that if things were even 1/10 as bad as they claim, there'd be dozens upon dozens of new undercover videos released weekly.<br />
PeTA acolytes need to think a little harder about the issues and not just uncritically accept everything they say as gospel.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Gilbert: In fact, P.T. Barnum never said that -- it was a competitor of Barnum's who was making an observation on Barnum's success.<br />
But you're forgiven ... my experience shows me that the pro-PeTA crowd doesn't allow facts to get in the way of a good story.<br />
As for PeTA: Just because they're strident on the issue doesn't mean they're right.<br />
There are a lot of people out there who need to graduate from Trendy Activism 101 and dig deeper into PeTA -- take a few minutes and see what their agenda really is and where their money actually goes.
        
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Damn! Sure glad I'm not a member of that family.
        
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      <![CDATA[For those of you that would like a different perspective than PETA, please visit<br />
<a href="http://www.elephants.com/." rel="nofollow">http://www.elephants.com/.</a>  From their website:<br />
The Elephant Sanctuary in Hohenwald, Tennessee, is the nation's largest natural-habitat refuge developed specifically to meet the needs of endangered elephants. It is a non-profit organization, licensed by the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency, designed specifically for old, sick or needy elephants who have been retired from zoos and circuses.
        
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      <![CDATA[You tell 'em, Big G! If there's anyone who knows extreme and nutty, it's you!<br />
LOL
        
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      <![CDATA[What he said.
        
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      <![CDATA["PETA may be extreme and nutty at times, but it doesn't mean they're wrong on this issue."<br />
As P.T. Barnum said, there's a sucker born every minute.<br />
LOL
        
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      <![CDATA[Barry, if I've made even one person feel less intelligent, then I feel it's been a productive day. And please send us the names of these grade school kids.
        
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      <![CDATA[Woods,<br />
Sure, it takes a helluva big waterboard, but it's appropriate.
        
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      <![CDATA[This is journalism? Seriously?
        
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    <author><![CDATA[amy]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[No! there is no way to train a wild animal Adam, you know why? Because they are wild!
        
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      <![CDATA[Who the hell's in favor of torturing elephants? Let's have a show of hands.
        
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      <![CDATA[I spent quite a few years working for RBBB, and the hysterical anti-circus bunch has no clue what they're talking about.<br />
Like this article, which admits as such: "an elephant ride a Harley or whatever the hell it is they do."<br />
Well, if you spent any time talking to and observing the trainers, visiting the CEC, getting to know the professionals involved, understanding that there's no rational reason on earth why anyone involved would harm an elephant, you might change your tune.<br />
Let's get to basic, unemotional, hardcore reality: The circus is a business. In any business, does it make business sense to harm one of the key benefits to your business?
        
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      <![CDATA[1) I'm glad I could provide laughs for some of you. It's a dark time in our country, and if I can inject some levity into the situation, I'm glad to help.<br />
2) As co-worker Caleb said just now, PETA may be extreme and nutty at times, but it doesn't mean they're wrong on this issue.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Caleb]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[As a vegetarian, I'd normally be inclined to side with the animal rights activists. But seeing as how elephant meat is the lone exception I allow myself, I'd feel like too much of a hypocrite if I feigned outrage.
        
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      <![CDATA[This is a continuing saga. PETA continues to show outdated footage and give misinformation while the general public is dumb enough to believe everything these animal rights extremists spew forth.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[<i>"The Scene has gone from counter-culture to laughable with this article."</i><br />
Amen and amen. Laughable is a kind description.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Sean]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Since when is PETA a reliable source for anything other than examples of animal rights activism carried to the point of absurdity?<br />
The <i>Scene</i> has gone from counter-culture to laughable with this article. Just because the opposition newspaper is a biased rag, does that mean the <i>Scene</i> has to become one as well in order to create "balance"?<br />
An article detailing the supposed "abuse" of animals in the circus would have been welcome.
        
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      <![CDATA[Is there a way to train the animals without brutality? The draw of the circus has long been the animals.
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 08:42:16 -0600</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[For more on circus animals read Water for Elephants. I'd love to see a Ringling Bros. elephant do what Rosie did.
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 08:42:09 -0600</pubDate>
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