David McRae 
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Re: “Legislature Agrees to Study Whether Communists Are Behind Fluoride in the Water

The beverage "tea" is indeed a single plant, Camellia Sinensis.
Depending upon how it is dried and processed it may become black tea, green tea, and several other variations.

Whyte found high levels of fluoride in most brands in the USA:
Whyte MP. (2006). 'The fluoride levels in bottled teas.'
American Journal of Medicine 119:189-90.

ALSO
Behrendt A, Oberste V, Wetzel WE. (2002). Fluoride concentration and pH of iced tea products. Caries Research 36(6): 405-410.
They wrote the following: “Most of the iced teas studied contained considerable fluoride concentrations. If infants ingest larger amounts of them because of their sweet taste, there is a risk of uncontrolled overdosing as a result of additional fluoride intake from other sources at the same time. ”
I would suggest the same risk applies to adults, particularly if using fluoridated tap water, and particularly if they have an especially high intake of fluid, eg. outdoor worker, active sports person.

A publication by Washington University School of Medicine, January 25, 2005, titled
'Potentially harmful fluoride levels found in some instant tea',
included this comment:
“Instant tea, one of the most popular drinks in the United States, may be a source of harmful levels of fluoride… The researchers found that some regular strength preparations contain as much as 6.5 parts per million (ppm) of fluoride, well over the 4 ppm maximum allowed in drinking water by the Environmental Protection Agency.”

Whyte (2008) and a number of other researchers have described the development of skeletal fluorosis from tea consumption, usually with the comment that using fluoridated tap water makes the fluoride content of the resulting beverage even higher than it would be with pure water.
SOURCE: Whyte MP, et al. (2008). Skeletal fluorosis from instant tea. J Bone Miner Res. 23(5):759-69.

MY COMMENT: Public water should be for everyone - whereas both tea and added fluoride should be a personal choice. Fluoride as a medicine should properly be taken as a tablet etc, after consultation with a health professional. Not force-fed via the kitchen tap. Surely we can move to a more sophisticated type of medicine than that!

Posted by David McRae on 03/29/2013 at 7:44 PM

Re: “Legislature Agrees to Study Whether Communists Are Behind Fluoride in the Water

Ang Rdr - who appears to lack the confidence to use his/her real name - makes a number of basic errors, above.
Tea is a plant / drink that consistently displays a high fluoride content relative to other herbs and beverages. Of course it depends upon the soil that it is grown on, but nearly all teas have high fluoride content. Well documented. Most cases of skeletal fluorosis that have been reported in the USA have been people who consumed large amounts of tea being made with fluoridated water. It is the double hit of fluoride, which, as I mentioned above, the community is not warned about.
"Every dollar spent in fluoridation saves $38 in dental treatment costs".
For goodness sake - that is one of those pieces of ridiculous, unproven promotional propaganda repeated by one fluoridation advocate after another. Apparently none go to the original to see whether it has any basis. It makes two serious errors.
(1) It fails to take into account any of the health costs of fluoridation, chief among which is the cost of treating dental fluorosis with costly veneers or other types of cosmetic dentistry.
(2) It is based upon the fluoridating material being available dirt cheap, which is only possible when water supply companies use the low-grade (non-food grade, non pharmaceutical grade) industry waste fluoride. The stuff that is contaminated with amounts of heavy metals. If fluoridation programs actually had to use material that was of food or pharmaceutical grade, which should be the minimum that the public could expect, the costs would soar and that propaganda claim would be revealed for what it is.

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Posted by David McRae on 03/29/2013 at 4:45 AM

Re: “Legislature Agrees to Study Whether Communists Are Behind Fluoride in the Water

Donna Locke makes a good point - tea and a small number of other foods and drugs contain a lot of fluoride. I think that is precisely the reason public water SHOULD NOT have added fluoride.

Is any agency out there warning consumers who like a lot of tea, to avoid making it with fluoridated tap water? I thought not. Water is for everyone - fluoride is not. Any drug, fluoride included, should only be given after careful examination of a person's medical status, and their other intake of the same or similar compounds. 21st century medicine is supposed to be individualized medicine- intelligent, responsive, capable of being adjusted or halted quickly! All impossible when the medicine is laced into the public water supply, and taken via the kitchen tap.

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Posted by David McRae on 03/28/2013 at 7:03 PM

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