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Re: “Kermit Gosnell Doesn't Prove Your Abortion Point. Yours Either.

On a side note, have you ever noticed that the mysterious 'fork" usually posts immediately followed by zoombah or xray or gast (who is MIA) or another nom de plume of what we all realize is the same sad person!

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Posted by Jim Collins on 05/15/2013 at 10:56 AM

Re: “Kermit Gosnell Doesn't Prove Your Abortion Point. Yours Either.

There is a distinct difference and MO between a serial killer and a mass murderer. Serial killers repeat their actions over an extended period of time, quite often years. Their particular incentives are continuing, reoccurring incidents (triggers). Mass murderers often react during a specifically defined short period of time. In them it can be argued to be a crime of passion where a singular trigger is in part the cause. the only similarity is that people die, and usually many of them.
UBC's would undoubtedly assist LEO's in ferreting out these individuals and removing the ease in which they obtain weapons. The protest of the momentary inconvenience is hardly justified by placing others in a potential situation where such incidents could occur, now is it.

Kermit Gosnell was a murderer for the eternal capitalist motive for business profits. One who would take advantage of a good law, and commit evil with ease. The fact he was discovered is heightened by the fact abortion is legal and regulated, as it should be. Hence the whistle blowers, being law abiding, have a real incentive to declare the situation. If they were in fact involved in a criminal conspiracy, they well may be reluctant to come forward

As far as emotions being involved in public policy, was it not emotion by the public that precipitated the Patriot Act proposed by Bush II, the backlash against the Dixie Chicks after their exercise in foresight and lawful practice of the 1st amendment, the unlawful invasion of Iraq under the mistaken belief that THEY were involved in 9/11 and in response to LIES told by the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice consortium? you can NOT condemn one without the other.

Fact is you can not shot someone (or many) without a gun, and if it is determined that you may be a danger to society, it behooves us all to place legal barriers to you obtaining that weapon. There are NO barriers for a lawful purchase of a weapon, other than price!

To declare a 7 or 8 month term fetus the same as a 2 or 3 month fetus is ignorant of obstetrics. The fact that short term fetuses have little to no viability without the confines of the host. This is where the pro life sect attempt to make public policy based on emotions, by declaring everything from a 2-3 month fetus to even a barely viable zygote a "person". They completely ignore their lack of respect for individual sovereignty over ones own bodily function. NO ONE LIKES ABORTION, but I contend the greater evil of biological enslavement by government decree to be the greater evil!

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Posted by Jim Collins on 05/15/2013 at 10:54 AM

Re: “Kermit Gosnell Doesn't Prove Your Abortion Point. Yours Either.

Serial killers are difficult or impossible to predict. Not that many things, other than mental pathology connect them: Manson, BTK, Bundy, Dahmer, and probably a dozen others are just about impossible to predict.

The mass murderers committed with guns are similarly unpredictable, I'll grant. Where we part ways is that you see no reason or benefit in some reasonable limits: background checks for mental and criminal issues, and a lower limit on the size of ammunition feeding devices. Safe storage requirements should be made law, too. These would have saved a number of lives in the past decade, and would cause minimal disruption to responsible, law abiding gun owners.

The guns used in shootings at Aurora, Tucson, Blacksburg and Newtown were acquired legally. The limits I just mentioned would have made a difference in each of these.

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Posted by mattintn on 05/15/2013 at 10:28 AM

Re: “Two Years After the Fairgrounds Fight, Things Are Still ... Awkward

What does the woman down the street look like?

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Posted by xray on 05/15/2013 at 9:11 AM

Re: “We Might Be Rednecks, Natalie Grigson Might Be a Dumbass

zzzzzzzz....

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Posted by xray on 05/15/2013 at 9:02 AM

Re: “Kermit Gosnell Doesn't Prove Your Abortion Point. Yours Either.

"Kermit Gosnell is a serial killer. Trying to make public policy based on the actions of a serial killer is foolish. There aren't that many of them. How serial killers act tells us nothing about how the majority of people who have superficially similar traits to them. The BTK Killer was a Boy Scout leader. Should we pass policy treating all Boy Scout leaders like murderers? Or, on account of Ted Bundy, should we make it illegal for good looking men to date, since any one of them might be a danger to women? Or should we ban 20-somethings from living together because of Charles Manson?"

Now, apply that VERY SAME LOGIC to Adam Lanza, James Holmes and the like. They are not representative of law-abiding gun owners, therefore the whole "gun control" effort was a very misdirected, flawed, and EMOTIONAL attempt at making PUBLIC POLICY based on the actions of a handful of people.

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Posted by Zoombah on 05/15/2013 at 8:56 AM

Re: “Kermit Gosnell Doesn't Prove Your Abortion Point. Yours Either.

Next you'll be telling us that there's nothing to the IRS scandal....

"Move along, folks... nothing to see here...."

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Posted by Zoombah on 05/15/2013 at 8:47 AM

Re: “Kermit Gosnell Doesn't Prove Your Abortion Point. Yours Either.

Rationalize it away any way you can....

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Posted by Zoombah on 05/15/2013 at 8:44 AM

Re: “Kermit Gosnell Doesn't Prove Your Abortion Point. Yours Either.

I'm just glad everyone now realizes what is growing inside a woman for 9 months is a person.

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Posted by Fork on 05/15/2013 at 8:36 AM

Re: “We Might Be Rednecks, Natalie Grigson Might Be a Dumbass

Yes, Men's magazine gave us a ranking we can be proud of: 3rd in the laziest cities listings. That's behind Jackson, Ms, and Charleston, WV. That survey supposedly has nothing to do with race or class. Maybe it's the late sleeping musicians that helped out, or the large number of State and Metro workers within our population, or the Belle Meade loafers, whatever! I say let's go for number 1 in the next survey. I'm starting on my part of that today.

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Posted by NeverFear on 05/15/2013 at 8:13 AM

Re: “Kermit Gosnell Doesn't Prove Your Abortion Point. Yours Either.

Well, he wouldn't be the norm, you're right. But neither would he have had a slew of clients eager for his services if abortion were more affordable and readily available. In other words, perpetuating a situation where abortions are increasingly difficult to obtain makes it more likely that a Gosnell can set up a business and succeed in it.

I also think that Gosnell was much more motivated by money than by dealing death. One thing that has been underreported on is his sideline of prescription drug dealing, working together with various pharmacists in the area. He made a LOT of money that way and enjoyed spending it.

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Posted by Concertina Terpsichore on 05/15/2013 at 8:09 AM

Re: “Kermit Gosnell Doesn't Prove Your Abortion Point. Yours Either.

"Trying to make public policy based on the actions of a serial killer is foolish. There aren't that many of them. How serial killers act tells us nothing about how the majority of people who have superficially similar traits to them."

You are talking about gun control, right?

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Posted by FFMUB on 05/15/2013 at 7:24 AM

Re: “Haslam Vetoes Ag Gag Bill

While I'm very pleased the Governor vetoed this bill, I was sorry to see that
his remarks left open the door for another similar bill next year.

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Posted by NeverFear on 05/15/2013 at 6:28 AM

Re: “We Might Be Rednecks, Natalie Grigson Might Be a Dumbass

Just saw a story on Yahoo, Nashville is also the 3rd laziest city in the U.S....

Go Nashville!

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Posted by 464 ZMB on 05/15/2013 at 6:13 AM

Re: “We Might Be Rednecks, Natalie Grigson Might Be a Dumbass

I like how Mark says the place with the most restrictive zoning laws in the state is the best governed. I thought zoning was the mark of the Agenda 21 beast!

Williamson County is what they are now because they built a mall that half the state shopped at for 15 years. They took in a lot of money that came in from other counties and used it to build a pretty little suburb. They use that tax money to put into schools and public services. Imagine that.

But yes, it's still a redneck town. It's run by old money. It's pretty much all white. They drive as many trucks and SUV's as any other county in the state, if newer ones. They passed resolutions of hate against the gays and the Muslims, and accused our Republican governor of not being Republican enough to suit them. They elect the redneck con woman Marsha Blackburn to Congress, and she tries all kinds of redneck tricks in Washington.

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Posted by mattintn on 05/15/2013 at 2:50 AM

Re: “We Might Be Rednecks, Natalie Grigson Might Be a Dumbass

Daisy Deadhead, Bob Jones is full of Holy Rollers, which are not related to the Redneck. Rednecks are partial to Natural Light , "Natties", which is disdained in Holy Roller culture. Holy Rollers are closer to Hillbillys, note that Bob Jones is close to the Smokies/Appalachia where people handle snakes in religious services and have often been described as Hillbilly Holy Rollers.

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Posted by OMFUG on 05/14/2013 at 10:35 PM

Re: “Haslam Vetoes Ag Gag Bill

@bobsguns: I was thinking the same thing. Here's a link that justifies Haslam sidetracking certain preferential treatment MNDC legislation last year. (As if that needs justification.)

http://blogs.tennessean.com/business/2013/…

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Posted by xray on 05/14/2013 at 10:28 PM

Re: “We Might Be Rednecks, Natalie Grigson Might Be a Dumbass

Chris Allen,

David Frum, really? There's nothing more mealy than that guy, and I consider myself a conservative.

Posted by 44allin on 05/14/2013 at 9:35 PM

Re: “Four stories of immigrant mothers who braved hard work, perilous journeys, even separation to raise their children as U.S. citizens

>>"illegals" (an epithet, to her mind)<<

Ask those immigrants who did the LEGAL route what they think about "illegals". I'm also sure child molesters also think that description is an "epithet" in their minds as well.

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Posted by bobsguns on 05/14/2013 at 8:48 PM

Re: “When your mother becomes someone you recognize less and less, and vice versa

Mr. Pagetta, I am truly sorry for those like you whom are in that position with a parent. I hope my mom doesn't get to that point as I have seen other friends' moms get. It's heartbreaking & depressing & never really goes away or gets better.

May kindness shine upon both you & your mother.

Posted by bobsguns on 05/14/2013 at 8:45 PM

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