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Re: “The Southern Baptist Convention Walks a Fine Line

Now you're just phoning it in, zoom.

Tired?

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Posted by AnglRdr on 06/14/2013 at 10:23 AM

Re: “BREAKING: Local Magazine Refocuses Its Mission on Left-Wing Lifestyle

Thank goodness the headline is wrong.

If Bruce were busy publishing a magazine then who would be the Political Commissar of the Megan Barry for Mayor campaign?

After all, Lenin had Trotsky. Mao had Zhou Enlai. Gracie Allen had George Burns. Lennon had Yoko {who makes Trotsky look attractive in more ways than people will admit}.

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Posted by Mark Rogers on 06/14/2013 at 10:22 AM

Re: “The Southern Baptist Convention Walks a Fine Line

"It sure reads like jealousy."

Only to a nitwit who is incapable of rational thought and likes to behave like a 2 year old.

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Posted by Zoombah on 06/14/2013 at 10:10 AM

Re: “The Hippodrome: Kryptonite Cardinals Crush Commodore Coronation

Is Vandy "built for the regular season," as they say?

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Posted by Steve H. on 06/14/2013 at 10:09 AM

Re: “The Southern Baptist Convention Walks a Fine Line

Angl is right on several counts.

Yes, homophobes have often equated homosexuality with pedophilia in the past. It was the rationale used 40 years ago to argue that homosexuals should not be allowed to teach in public schools.

And, yes, the conflation still occurs.

Where I disagree with Betsy: I don't know that there is an correlation among the Baptists or other evangelicals between their homophobia and their reluctance to go after predators in their ranks. From what I've read, the child molester problem in the Baptist ranks mostly involves heterosexuals.

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Posted by bubbadog on 06/14/2013 at 10:06 AM

Re: “The Southern Baptist Convention Walks a Fine Line

Aw, Zoomie must not have gotten his Eagle Scout. It sure reads like jealousy.

Poor punkin!

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Posted by AnglRdr on 06/14/2013 at 10:05 AM

Re: “BREAKING: Local Magazine Refocuses Its Mission on Left-Wing Lifestyle

This child with the tortoise shell glasses? How could he be a veteran of anything?

Posted by stellabardo! on 06/14/2013 at 9:42 AM
Posted by Michelle Price-Johnson on 06/14/2013 at 9:38 AM

Re: “Bill Haslam and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Week

Better get used to lots more multi-million-dollar no-bid contracts from state government - giving our tax dollars away to the governor and his cronies. One of the first acts of the governor and his supermajority of the GOP was to eviscerate the state's purchasing laws to make it easier to play pirate with public money. Meanwhile, they starve our schools and universities, cheat public employees and open public lands to fracking (all while making Tennessee the butt of jokes on national television!).
This is our Tennessee GOP, folks.

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Posted by intrepid on 06/14/2013 at 9:22 AM

Re: “The Southern Baptist Convention Walks a Fine Line

Ahhhh, the red-eyed hatred of the left. It happens every time. You guys are totally controlled by your emotions, which completely impedes your ability to think logically.

And there are plenty of Eagle Scouts who zipped through the program and got very little from it. All they wanted was the neckerchief, the patch and the certificate.

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Posted by Zoombah on 06/14/2013 at 9:19 AM

Re: “Sex, Lies, and Audiotape at Hillsboro High

Great Program Being Slammed with Lies!!
I can tell you first hand that this article; and the one published in the Tennessean earlier in the week is complete slander. I saw this presentation twice as a high school student; once as a sophomore (who would never need the information) and once as a pregnant senior. I choose open adoption for my birth son when he was born in 2006, an option I would not have known enough about if not for DCO and Mrs. Wasill. Anyone that has seen the program (in its entirety) can tell you that the abstinence message is a short 5-7 minutes of a 90 minutes presentation. The point of the abstinence message is simply to set the students up for a mindset that IF they choose to be sexually active they may be faced with a pregnancy and have to make a decision about the baby they are now carrying. This article quoted Dr. Mary Romano saying “the presentation relies on facts taken out of context." I would challenge Dr. Romano by asking if she herself saw the presentation from start to finish or if her response is based on the bits and pieces of information (out of context) hand feed to her by this reporter? DCO is taking a worthwhile message into the schools of Middle Tennessee and giving the students that no one else has been willing to step up and deliver. I’m Pregnant, now what are my options.

Posted by christinembaxter on 06/14/2013 at 8:55 AM
Posted by Penni Krider on 06/14/2013 at 8:08 AM

Re: “Bill Haslam and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Week

EMPTY CHAIR, yawn! At least get the stupid, insulting metaphor right!

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Posted by Gregory D. Hanners on 06/14/2013 at 7:34 AM

Re: “Bill Haslam and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Week

Obama was nominated and he has a really empty suit.

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Posted by yawn, ho hum on 06/14/2013 at 6:04 AM

Re: “The Southern Baptist Convention Walks a Fine Line

And defining morals on their own terms.

Posted by jaundiced cherub on 06/14/2013 at 6:00 AM

Re: “The Southern Baptist Convention Walks a Fine Line

55 years ago I raised my hand and promised on my honor that, among other things, I would be "a friend to all and a brother to every other Scout." Nothing in there about having to be straight to be my friend or my brother. The "anti-bay ban" has only been a rule with BSA for the past 22 years. Before that, there was no ban. Baden-Powell, the founder, never banned gays. No other country in the world of Scouting bans gays.

Prior to this rule about gays, Scouting never tried to define "morality." It has always been that morality was in the eyes of the sub-culture or community in which the Scout lived. The Boy Scout Handbook (11th ed.) explains “morally straight” as “To be a person of strong character, your relationships with others should be honest and open. You should respect and defend the rights of all people. Be clean in your speech and actions, and remain faithful in your religious beliefs. The values you practice as a Scout will help you shape a life of virtue and self-reliance.”

The exclusion of gays is definitely against this definition of "morally straight" especially as far as "defend[ing] the rights of all people."

And as regards sexual activity, it's always been recognized that it's not a part of Scouting, and questions and discussions about sex are the domain of the parents or spiritual leader.

To quote Steven King, Scouting has "forgot the face of your[it's] father." Scouting was never meant to attempt to actually teach morals or morality-- it was a byproduct of the program.

Scouting's purpose was, and still is, found in it's corporate charter issued by Congress first in 1912 and reissued each year. Because it's a federal charter it can be found in the United States Code-- 36 USC § 30902, and the current version states:

"The purposes of the corporation are to promote, through organization, and cooperation with other agencies, the ability of boys to do things for themselves and others, to train them in scoutcraft, and to teach them patriotism, courage, self-reliance, and kindred virtues, using the methods that were in common use by boy scouts on June 15, 1916."

Nothing in there about teaching morals or ruling on other people's morality. Scouting is a game with a purpose, as stated above. Morality, honor and virtue are simply by-products and should not be defined by Scouting, but by the Scout's own community.

It was wrong to institute the ban 22 years ago when it was done, and it has been wrong and against the principles of Scouting for the past 22 years it's been in effect.

As far as Scouting being a "private organization" who can pick and choose it's members, regardless of the Supreme Court decision, Scouting gave up that right when it accepted the federal charter, and the millions and millions of dollars in public money that it's accepted over the years, and *still* accepts annually.

signed by: an Eagle Scout.

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Posted by Eagle Scout on 06/14/2013 at 1:25 AM

Re: “The Southern Baptist Convention Walks a Fine Line

Okay, I'm an Eagle Scout and I think the BSA should cut ties with the bigots at the SBC. I don't recall intolerance being part of the Scout Oath or Promise.

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Posted by Roy Moore on 06/13/2013 at 11:53 PM

Re: “Bill Haslam and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Week

So that's the best you've got, yawn? Seriously? That's a defense? You fucking putz.

Actually, if he were a Democrat, we wouldn't have nominated him. He's just too empty a suit.

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Posted by Perry Aubric on 06/13/2013 at 11:18 PM

Re: “A remarkable new oral-history project documents LGBT life before Stonewall in Middle Tennessee

Real history is not about the Presidents and Generals. Real history is about the people on the ground finding a way through life.

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Posted by accipiter on 06/13/2013 at 11:12 PM

Re: “The Southern Baptist Convention Walks a Fine Line

Seems like everybody is pickin' their own favorite sins to ignore.

Posted by jaundiced cherub on 06/13/2013 at 10:38 PM

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