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Comment Archives: stories: News: Pith in the Wind

Re: “Woman Sues Corrections Corp. Over Strip Search To Prove She Was Menstruating (UPDATED)

"Treating someone in the same manner you would treat a criminal is not the same as declaring someone a criminal."

Distinction without a difference: if someone isn't a criminal, why should the state (or de facto state in this case) treat them as a criminal? I think there are some parts of the Bill of Rights that address that.

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Posted by AnglRdr on 01/22/2015 at 5:34 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

Whack-a-mole alert!

The instant one bad-idea public works project is nixed, another will inevitably pop up to take its place.

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Posted by stop me when I start lyin' on 01/22/2015 at 4:56 PM

Re: “Woman Sues Corrections Corp. Over Strip Search To Prove She Was Menstruating (UPDATED)

Treating someone in the same manner you would treat a criminal is not the same as declaring someone a criminal. Learn to read and reason, bubbadog.

Extra precautions are necessary in prison. Deciding that bringing in something from outside requires further inspection is not crazy. The question is where do you draw the line on that inspection. If it wasn't clear in my prior post, having your "bleeding hoo-has inspected so (you) can carry a spare government-issued maxi pad" is over the line.

Thanks for letting me clarify.

Although I still think you are dense.

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Posted by I am BOOB Thruster on 01/22/2015 at 4:49 PM

Re: “The Cavalcade of People who Saw and Did Nothing

First, I think as Angl does, ie about their parents. This must be such a horrible thing.

I have heard these primary perps are not from a privileged background. Maybe the opposite. If that is true, who is paying some serious legal fees. Surely not Vanderbilt?

I did aks a close relative who is in college, she did say it comes as no surprise and feels it is our college culture rather than the athletic life.
I don't know what to think.

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Posted by john on 01/22/2015 at 4:44 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

Remember kids, the utter failure of mass transit in the 'ville is A VICTORY FOR MASS TRANSIT! Wait... what?

Meanwhile, the plan to raise the average building height to 10 stories from Lower Broad to I-440 along West End Avenue continues apace, with no parallel development of infrastructure to handle the increase in density.

>>>Any idea where that money came from and what it could have been spent on instead? Perhaps some sidewalks in areas not connected to the downtown corridor?

Dean's just putting it on a running tab -- right along with millions to Westin, millions to Bridgestone, millions to build Hipster Memorial Pedestrian Bridge from the Gulch to Lower Broad, millions on behalf of Omni, millions for MCC, millions for the Nashville TV show... the feasibility studies for Amp just don't seem like they would move the needle all that much on the debt burden at this point.

(And heaven forfend that Metro would even consider adding expense on the operating rather than capital side of the ledger. There appears to be water in the well for every multi-use, multi-tenant, brickbusting boondoggle around here, but nary a dime for police, firefighters, or teachers. Mention those, and supposedly we're in a budgetary drought.)

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Posted by AndyAxel on 01/22/2015 at 4:44 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

44allin - change "high-profile" to a route that fits or is projected to fit the government's population density requirements. No density = no federal money.

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Posted by Diatribean! on 01/22/2015 at 4:42 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

"West End was chosen, in my estimation, in hopes of getting the city's wealthy to buy into it."

I thought in order to receive federal funding these projects are required to start on the most high-profile route through a city and that was the reasoning?

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Posted by 44allin on 01/22/2015 at 4:36 PM

Re: “It Starts With Richard Fulton

Anglworm, there is a little more to it. I cannot go into detail. In fact there is a lot more to it.

yoyo,

The Worm has been mean to me, but I think at the end of day she's OK.

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Posted by john on 01/22/2015 at 4:32 PM

Re: “Woman Sues Corrections Corp. Over Strip Search To Prove She Was Menstruating (UPDATED)

Casey,

What is your loved one in for?

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Posted by john on 01/22/2015 at 4:25 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

The "Bus Freeway" was a legitimate use of resources--BRT needs to happen in Nashville, period. West End was chosen, in my estimation, in hopes of getting the city's wealthy to buy into it. However, as we all know, the Charlotte Rd., Murfreesboro Rd., and Nolensville Rd. corridors are much, much better (from a needs standpoint) candidates.

Sidewalks are a completely separate, but exceedingly important, issue, for whatever it's worth.

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Posted by AnglRdr on 01/22/2015 at 4:20 PM

Re: “Woman Sues Corrections Corp. Over Strip Search To Prove She Was Menstruating (UPDATED)

I tried to visit a friend of mine in jail here in Nashville a few years ago. I was refused entry twice. Once, because I had on a sleeveless shirt, and once because I was wearing a shoe with an open back. I tried to visit her three separate times and never once got in to see her.

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Posted by Min on 01/22/2015 at 4:08 PM

Re: “Woman Sues Corrections Corp. Over Strip Search To Prove She Was Menstruating (UPDATED)

BTW, Boob, a visitor is not a criminal.

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Posted by bubbadog on 01/22/2015 at 3:59 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

"Can we get a refund for money spent on this?" I would be really really interested in seeing the total dollars spent simply on marketing and PR. The Dean camp seemed to focus the entirety of their attention on this Bus Freeway so I have to believe it was at least a few million dollars. Any idea where that money came from and what it could have been spent on instead? Perhaps some sidewalks in areas not connected to the downtown corridor? I know that's a pipe dream....

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Posted by Randall on 01/22/2015 at 3:55 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

Can we get a refund for money spent on this?

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Posted by 44allin on 01/22/2015 at 3:46 PM

Re: “Woman Sues Corrections Corp. Over Strip Search To Prove She Was Menstruating (UPDATED)

You got me there, Angl. Some prison guards are helpful. And some are assholes just because they CAN be.

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Posted by bubbadog on 01/22/2015 at 3:46 PM

Re: “The Cavalcade of People who Saw and Did Nothing

GREAT ARTICLE!!

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Posted by theredheadedgal on 01/22/2015 at 3:46 PM

Re: “Woman Sues Corrections Corp. Over Strip Search To Prove She Was Menstruating (UPDATED)

I agree about tampon applicators, but the device in question was not a tampon (and not all tampons have applicators, or even plastic applicators, for that matter), but rather a sanitary napkin (a "pad," for those not intimately familiar with the devices).

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Posted by AnglRdr on 01/22/2015 at 3:38 PM

Re: “The Daily Links: Megyn Kelly, Sleater-Kinney, and the Bay Guardian

@Scavedish: It looks to me like the the IG's report confirms the NY Post story. There were no controls and CBRE made out like bandits.

Posted by ?thehey on 01/22/2015 at 3:38 PM

Re: “Woman Sues Corrections Corp. Over Strip Search To Prove She Was Menstruating (UPDATED)

I understand that security is a paramount concern. I've led classes in prisons before. Some of the restrictions may seem arbitrary if you don't realize how certain objects can be fashioned into weapons. For example, we were not allowed to bring hard-back books inside, because the hard covers could be turned into something dangerous. You could either bring a soft-cover book or remove the cover from a hardbound book. So, yes, I understand how the plastic applicator of a tampon could become a sharp object.

That said, it appears the guards went way beyond the pale in this case. First, the visitor wasn't going in among the general population. She would have been taken to a visitation room, and she would either have been escorted the whole way by a guard or gone down a corridor where she had no exposure to inmates. The inmate (the woman's husband) could have been searched after the visit was over to make sure he had not received any contraband. Finally, if the sanitary napkin was a problem, the guards simply could have confiscated it.

It was not necessary to subject this woman to a search like this.

What it suggests to me is that the whole experience was designed to intimidate visitors into not visiting -- assuming it wasn't merely rank incompetence by the guards (always a possibility with CCA). But CCA has no real interest in letting people visit inmates. Processing visitors requires staff time, and the use of staff time for nonessential activities (read: activities that don't contribute to bottom-line profitability) deters them from adding shareholder value to the organization. (This is the outfit, after all, that allegedly let gangs run things inside an Idaho prison so that CCA could reduce its staffing levels and expense).

Experience also taught me that visiting prisons involves something of a crapshoot. How you're treated depends on which guard you're dealing with and on what kind of day that guard is having.

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Posted by bubbadog on 01/22/2015 at 3:31 PM

Re: “Woman Sues Corrections Corp. Over Strip Search To Prove She Was Menstruating (UPDATED)

How can a sanitary napkin be used as a weapon or means of escape? Please do inform those of us who aren't criminally-minded.

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Posted by AnglRdr on 01/22/2015 at 3:26 PM

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