You might be a redneck if you don't care that people might think that you're a redneck and you really don't care what outsiders think about your home state or city. I guess I'm a redneck. And all you sniffy little apologizers? Get a life.
@Jim Collins: Your guessing identities of anonymous posters is as ludicrous as your logic. Here, have a softball.
I like how all topics come back to guns and gays when zermberb is frantically typing, sweat flinging from his face, spittle flying as he pounds the keyboard so that us stupid liberals will just maybe, finally change our points of view to match his.
The fact is, the three killers I mentioned (Aurora, Tucson, Blacksburg) did not seek their guns out on the street. They didn't buy them from some guy's trunk. They didn't steal them from an improperly secured home.
They bought their guns and large capacity magazines legally, through the front door of gun shops. Two of these three were only stopped when they had to reload. Bystanders rushed them and disarmed them with their hands. In Aurora, the gunman's gun jammed, as happens sometimes with large capacity magazines, and he was stopped.
All I'm saying is we need three simple things: comprehensive criminal and mental health background checks, limits on the size of magazines that may be sold, and safe storage requirements for guns that are not in the immediate control of their owners.
These are not unreasonable. They are not an attack on any person's freedom. They won't stop you from doing anything you want to do. You just said, it only takes a couple of seconds to reload smaller magazines. So take the couple of seconds to reload. If it's such a small thing, why not err on the side of what is going to murder less people?
I'll tell you why: zermberb and people who think like him don't care who dies. They lionize people who kill with their guns in our society. They fancy themselves revolutionaries and fully expect that blood should be shed. They don't care to restrict guns because they don't care who dies, or how many, or how often, or where. A lot of money is made by an industry. A lot of people stay whipped into anti-government frenzy and armed to the teeth, just anticipating reasons to start the shooting.
If you think the Newtown shooting was just an OK thing to happen in our society, then you don't want to change anything after it happened.
If you support what happened at Aurora, then you see no reason for stronger restrictions on who can buy guns.
Am I being unfair? I don't really care, anymore. I'm tired of so many innocent people dying because selfish blowhards like zermberb refuse to allow ANY reasonable regulation of guns in our society.
Thousands of people have died even just since Newtown, and they will keep doing so. Zermberb and his cohorts have shown time and again that they do not care, and they see no reason to change this horrifying part of our country.
Mark Rogers, while I agree Gosnell COULD be considered a serial killer, the pursuit of profits DID add to his motivation for his deeds, hence capitalistic pursuits is a factor. That is NOT to blanket condemn capitalism, but to reinforce the fact that restrictions and regulations MUST be in place to control the greed!
You appear to want it to say that the 1994 AWB reduced crime significantly, which is not the case.
The fact remains that any new gun control laws will have the same effect as previous ones, which is none.
That's what Koper said. I asked what I said.
"Koper, Jan 14: In general we found, really, very, very little evidence, almost none, that gun violence was becoming any less lethal or any less injurious during this time frame. So on balance, we concluded that the ban had not had a discernible impact on gun crime during the years it was in effect."
How so?
What were the figures you estimated they were earning?
I asked first, Zoombah--what is it you think I'm saying? (spoiler alert: I didn't actually say anything)
Define "large capacity magazine".
Define "assault weapon".
They told me something's fishy.
Which is what?
You'll note that the decrease in gun violence was offset by the "steady or rising use of other semi-automatics equipped with large-capacity magazines."
So what did your figures tell you, Donna?
And I believe you're reading into it what you want it to say, AnglRdr.
Also: The study found “clear indications that the use of assault weapons in crime did decline after the ban went into effect” and that assault weapons were becoming rarer as the years passed (this is the part of the study Feinstein seized on). But, he said, the reduction in the use of assault weapons was “offset through at least the late 1990s by steady or rising use of other semi-automatics equipped with large-capacity magazines.”
(Copying from the same report, Zoombah. It doesn't say what you're saying it said.)
Several years ago I spoke with several flea-market vendors at the Fairgrounds. They told me how much they paid to rent their spaces and sometimes tables, etc., and we talked about the number of vendors and did a little math, and at the end of it, I wondered, as they did, where all the money is and has been going.
"Koper, Jan 14: In general we found, really, very, very little evidence, almost none, that gun violence was becoming any less lethal or any less injurious during this time frame. So on balance, we concluded that the ban had not had a discernible impact on gun crime during the years it was in effect."
Maybe you've failed to state the point.
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/02/did-the-1994-assault-weapons-ban-work/
Re: “Kermit Gosnell Doesn't Prove Your Abortion Point. Yours Either.”
Tee-hee.