Narrow Search

  • Show Only

  • Category

  • Narrow by Date

    • All
    • Today
    • Last 7 Days
    • Last 30 Days
    • Select a Date Range
    • From:

      To:


Comment Archives: stories: News: City Limits

Re: “Your guide to the four propositions on Tuesday's ballot

Like the politicians, you go out of your way to avoid saying that Amendment 2 actually deletes this: "The Judges of the Supreme Court shall be elected by the qualified voters of the state."

1 like, 0 dislikes
Posted by Concerned Citizen on 10/30/2014 at 9:50 AM

Re: “Your guide to the four propositions on Tuesday's ballot

A hyperliteral interpretation of the oath of office would mean nothing could ever get passed. Because I'm sure there are people who would find (or have found) Amendment 1, guns in trunks/parks/etc., the lottery, the gay marriage ban, the death penalty . . . hell, just about anything the legislature has passed since the state entered the Union, "injurious to the people."

The convention call option referenced in Article XI, sec. 3 appears to be a "right" of the legislature, not an obligation.

Posted by Jeebus Saves on 10/30/2014 at 9:36 AM

Re: “Your guide to the four propositions on Tuesday's ballot

Jeebus Saves:

That's a coherent argument.

Here is another: If, "The People," is the group unto which all Constitutional power is vested, Article I Section 1 and the "citizens" are a subset of "The People", then "citizens voting for governor" as in Article XI §3 is further subset (constraint of Citizens possessing the right to vote on the Constitutional amendment.

If the (unelected) AG who is appointed by the very people about whom we are concerned here are aggregating their power and their economic benefit through this misinterpretation of the provision, then his (AG) "opinion" (which is by no means the "law") is rendered incompetent by virtue of their (and hence his) self interest.

Moreover if you read on through Article XI §3 Paragraph 2 you will notice that the Legislature had, under their oath in Article X, "will not propose or assent to any bill, vote or resolution, which shall appear to be injurious to the people, or consent to any act or thing, whatever, that shall have a tendency to lessen or abridge their rights and privileges, as declared by the Constitution of this state;" an obligation, to call for a constitutional convention in order to have The People GIVE UP their Right to Vote under Article VI Section 3.

Why not ask the AG about that too?

Posted by tonygottlieb on 10/30/2014 at 9:04 AM

Re: “Your guide to the four propositions on Tuesday's ballot

Look who's writing for the Scene! Haha! Welcome aboard!

0 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by Nicki P Wood on 10/30/2014 at 8:41 AM

Re: “High-profile exits leave The Tennessean even thinner-staffed than planned

The "newsroom of the future" throws away loyal newspaper readers to pander to fickle 24- to 35-year-olds who will take their coveted eyeballs to anything shiny. I have a friend who works in Westchester and they're getting ready for their own bloodbath in weeks to come, just in time for Thanksgiving. She said morale couldn't be lower, particularly since the "editor" making the decision is as vindictive as they come, straight from the Gannett management training grounds, and will use this as an opportunity to settle perceived wrongs against her. "She told us these were not 'gotcha' interviews," she wrote in an email last night. "That everything was very fair and professional, that she would be in the room with us, to coax us to share our great work with out-of-town editors and HR people who will be helping to decide who stays and goes. I could tell she was lying. Her lips were moving."

Posted by Thanksgiving on 10/30/2014 at 8:01 AM

Re: “Your guide to the four propositions on Tuesday's ballot

Another interpretation, apparently the one relied upon by the AG, focuses on the first "people." It doesn't say "people voting for governor." It just says people. So anyone eligible to vote can vote for the amendment. The "majority of all citizens . . . voting for governor" appears to set the mathematical threshold that the "people [who] approve and ratify such amendment" must reach in order for the measure to pass.

And given this particular reporter's recent history with a certain soon-to-be-former state senator from Knoxville, I'd bet she isn't one who isn't going to buy whatever someone in government sells her.

1 like, 0 dislikes
Posted by Jeebus Saves on 10/30/2014 at 7:15 AM

Re: “Your guide to the four propositions on Tuesday's ballot

The Article XI Section 3 language referred to is:
...

"And if the people shall approve and ratify such amendment or amendments by a majority of all the citizens of the state voting for governor, voting in their favor, such amendment or amendments shall become a part of this Constitution."

...looks like there's a "voting for governor" requirement to me. But then I don't have to suspend disbelief for money, like Fontenay.

It doesn't say "citizens voting," it says "citizens voting for governor." Perhaps the Founders weren't as dumb as we think and in ensuring that there would be a check and balance on the amendment process, which, because Amendment #2 abridges a foundation level "voting right," it actually required a constitutional convention to be able to present an Amendment like #2. But who reads the text of the Constitution anyway?

Hey Cari: Are journalists really so naive as to believe everything some guy in a government office tells them?

2 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by tonygottlieb on 10/30/2014 at 4:57 AM

Re: “High-profile exits leave The Tennessean even thinner-staffed than planned

I haven't clicked on a Tennessean article since 2012, after their limp handed Romney endorsement. I adjusted my google news feed to never show articles from the Tennessean or Fox News, ever. I feel like I fixed the internet.

1 like, 0 dislikes
Posted by David Gilmore on 10/29/2014 at 11:02 PM

Re: “High-profile exits leave The Tennessean even thinner-staffed than planned

Well, this explains now why, every other day, there's yet another "People" magazine-type piece on that sickeningly interminable couple ,Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman, in the Music section. Wasn't one of these something about how they're taking their kids to school....I mean, for real?

Posted by glasat on 10/29/2014 at 10:34 PM

Re: “High-profile exits leave The Tennessean even thinner-staffed than planned

"What to make of a diminished thing."

1 like, 0 dislikes
Posted by Kim in Detroit on 10/29/2014 at 12:31 PM

Re: “A rivalry across the river between parents' groups adds fuel to the already smoldering schools situation in East Nashville

I have repeatedly asked Katie and Kathryn Rizzone to engage in constructive, collaborative dialogue regarding the future improvement of our neighborhood schools in East Nashville (in both the Stratford and Maplewood clusters). The response I have received to date is that they are busy. As a supporter of collaborative dialogue, there isn't much that I can do when people refuse to come to the table and then complain that they are being silenced or ignored. All I can do is keep inviting.

4 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by benintn on 10/28/2014 at 10:37 AM

Re: “High-profile exits leave The Tennessean even thinner-staffed than planned

Gannet does NOT value its employees and treats them very shabbily. Their website is almost impossible to use, especially when it comes to making comments on the site.

9 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by appdancer on 10/27/2014 at 6:24 PM

Re: “High-profile exits leave The Tennessean even thinner-staffed than planned

Miss Gruntled, I'm willing to bet your interminable post was entertaining and informative what with all the likes and everything...but I nodded off after 'fuck'. Maybe a Reader's Digest abridged version is available - remember your audience and that this is the 'digital' age. Just ask Ms. Murray. ;)

3 likes, 11 dislikes
Posted by localboy on 10/27/2014 at 12:40 PM

Re: “High-profile exits leave The Tennessean even thinner-staffed than planned

Let's take Lance Williams at his word here and that traffic is wildly up from the prior year.

How does that reconcile with "What we've been doing wasn't working?" If what Lance says is true, it actually WAS working and Stefanie blew it up.

Thanks Lance, you've helped prove that this latest move has nothing to do with journalism, restructuring, the future, technology, web traffic, "change" or reprioritizing.

This was about money. Plain and simple.

And Stefanie's strategy is to toss her own staff under the bus to cover it up. Well done! You are pure Gannett, Stefanie!

16 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by StillHangingOn on 10/27/2014 at 9:07 AM

Re: “High-profile exits leave The Tennessean even thinner-staffed than planned

The Tenneseean has been documented over the last three decades as inflating its circulation figures for the Audit Bureau of Circulation -- and its shareholders, of course. It would be no surprise to discover they're doing the same to the easily manipulated site-traffic data.

9 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by TheQuietMan on 10/26/2014 at 9:28 PM

Re: “High-profile exits leave The Tennessean even thinner-staffed than planned

Unless he or the Tennessean are willing to make their data public, I wouldn't put much credence in what Lance Williams says. The so-called "improvement in the way the paper counts mobile and desktop traffic" may just be artificially inflating the numbers.

11 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by The Truth Teller on 10/26/2014 at 7:12 PM

Re: “High-profile exits leave The Tennessean even thinner-staffed than planned

"Ideation room?" Really?! What an interesting choice of words by the new management considering that the word "ideation" almost always immediately precedes the words "paranoid," "suicidal," or "homicidal" in the context of a psychological examination; e.g., "Patient presents with suicidal ideation and a plan to hang himself."

Given the bloodbath at The Tennessean, perhaps it's an apropos use of the term and a telling Freudian slip on the part of new management.

16 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by mes on 10/25/2014 at 8:49 PM

Re: “High-profile exits leave The Tennessean even thinner-staffed than planned

The crayon scribbling on the walls like it's a sorority dorm room is just insane. Stefanie Murray has lost her mind, if she ever had one. Truly surreal.

12 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by OhBoy on 10/25/2014 at 9:39 AM

Re: “A rivalry across the river between parents' groups adds fuel to the already smoldering schools situation in East Nashville

"They've been silenced,' Kim says." WHAT??? Silenced by whom? Seriously, who was supposedly silencing charter school parents? That's absurd, and Ms. Kim is making it up to fit her scripted narrative.

And will East Nashville Believes chant "choice is power" to support the KIPP takeover looming for an East Nashville elementary school, when the priority schools' parents have voiced clearly at every meeting that they DON'T want that? What about parent choice then?

6 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by parent on 10/24/2014 at 10:42 PM

Re: “High-profile exits leave The Tennessean even thinner-staffed than planned

It seems to me the logical next step for the Tennessean (to continue this race to the bottom) is to replace Stefanie Murray with Stacy Harris.

16 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by ha on 10/24/2014 at 6:03 PM

Sign Up! For the Scene's email newsletters





* required

All contents © 1995-2014 City Press LLC, 210 12th Ave. S., Ste. 100, Nashville, TN 37203. (615) 244-7989.
All rights reserved. No part of this service may be reproduced in any form without the express written permission of City Press LLC,
except that an individual may download and/or forward articles via email to a reasonable number of recipients for personal, non-commercial purposes.
Powered by Foundation