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Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

@ Angl:

The AMP would have indeed shut down left turns at a number of intersections (including, I think, all of those without stoplights). I saw them marked on the official route maps, and officials at the charrette I attended confirmed this point for me.

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Posted by bubbadog on 01/23/2015 at 12:37 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

Given that MOST residential development occurs in close proximity to interstate corridors, it would make sense to use such corridors in any inter-urban plan. Confining your planning to metro limits is solving very little in the way of congestion.
By using a dedicated lane (new construction) or even a mono-rail concept (yes I know it's expensive) along said corridors would be efficient when coupled with more conventional mass trans usage. That is IF concerted effort were made to NOT do things half way and plan not to just solve today's problems, but to anticipate and plan for tomorrows.
The expense of such concepts, though extreme, will solve many future concerns and lessen if made attractive to the rider, congestion along these major and jammed thoroughfares.
Progress has a cost, and so does gridlock. And both will be much more expensive the longer we wait.

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Posted by Jim Collins on 01/23/2015 at 12:29 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

It's because you're targeting people who already reliably use the bus. They're not the ones that need convincing to use it, because, as I said, they already do. I think you said earlier you wanted to target people who could be convinced to use the bus, but if they're already using the bus, they don't need to be convinced, right?

Saying you don't understand who rides the bus is not a personal attack--it's an accurate observation.

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Posted by AnglRdr on 01/23/2015 at 12:20 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

I gather you don't like my suggestion because you think it won't increase ridership enough to make a difference/provide whatever benefits people expect from increased ridership.

Your devolving into sighs of good grief and personal attacks is disheartening, especially given your exhortation above for me not to exaggerate.

A plan that can be put in place quickly, on a small scale (both of these have already happened), and dismantled easily is the opposite of a "sweeping change." Seeing that you are ignorant of that takes the sting out of your convoluted responses.

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Posted by Diatribean! on 01/23/2015 at 12:16 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

It only went several blocks past 440 anyway (assuming you mean south toward the St. Thomas terminus).

While high school students (and state employees and federal employees) do not have to pay money out of their pocket for their fares, an entity other than MTA is covering those costs. That's why it is a subsidy and not free.

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Posted by AnglRdr on 01/23/2015 at 12:13 PM

Re: “What You Missed at Tennessee Right To Life's Press Conference

Patrick Keohane represents the old papal domination of personal decisions and the cessation of a humans sovereignty over their own biological processes.
This has never been about dead babies, though that is their calling card,. It is about the freedom to choose to be pregnant or not. Humorously those against abortion seem ready and eager to torpedo the most efficient strategy to STOP unwanted pregnancies, sex education and easy access to birth control. It's a sin (according to christianists) to discuss sex with teens, ironically those most in need of instruction and prevention from pregnancy. Trying to tell a 16 year old with raging hormones to use abstinence is like using a stop sign for an avalanche. Sh*t happens, any woman can find herself pregnant. When that is coupled with poverty the dynamic becomes magnified. When it is a mistake, lives can be altered forever in ways that benefit no one. Loss of such control over ones own body defeats any concept of freedom we claim to enjoy and rings hypocritical any pledge to the freedoms offered in the constitution. It makes not 2nd class, but 3rd class citizens of our female citizenry.

And trust me, you don't wanna get into the life begins at conception bullsh*t.

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Posted by Jim Collins on 01/23/2015 at 12:09 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

The Amp would certainly have eliminated several left turns on West End past 440.

Subsidized is not the word I am looking for, unless high school students have to pay out-of-pocket to get on a bus under that program. If they do, okay. My big-government program is not make buses subsidized for the rider. It is to make them free to the rider. That's marketing 101.

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Posted by Diatribean! on 01/23/2015 at 12:09 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

Oh good grief.

The poor already ride the bus; they're not the ones who need convincing to ride the bus because they already do. Immigrants already ride the bus.

This is why I guessed you didn't ride the bus--you don't know anything about people who ride it, but you're more than willing to go ahead and suggest sweeping changes about something you are completely ignorant of.

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Posted by AnglRdr on 01/23/2015 at 12:07 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

I'm not a politician and have no desire to get into the weeds of bus operating policy, especially with a liberal, non-fiscal conservative who calls an idea to help the poor and minorities a non-starter.

That said...

Targeting and scaling are deviations from the initial suggestion that serve to water it down and make it palatable to people with knee-jerk "no" reactions. Want to satisfy advocates for the poor - target them. Want to help immigrant communities - target bus lines running through those communities. Want to attract those on the cusp - make the bus down Charlotte and up/down Sylvan Park/Nations free and fast.

All that is horse-trading. To get that far, people have to buy into the idea first.

Posted by Diatriben! on 01/23/2015 at 12:04 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

D!: "subsidized" is the word you're looking for.

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Posted by AnglRdr on 01/23/2015 at 12:03 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

The Amp wouldn't have shut down left turns, though.

And I can't find ridership numbers by route. Do you have a link?

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Posted by AnglRdr on 01/23/2015 at 12:01 PM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

Well, of course nothing is "free" in the grand scheme of things and everything has a cost. But yes, free to high school students, paralleling my initial suggestion.

If the bus were free, I'd reconsider. Maybe convinced wasn't the right word. But, given different circumstances, I would consider riding the bus. I'm sure I am not alone in those thoughts, and I think bubbadog's racial and poor-person statements above are overstated or at least - not insurmountable.

Posted by Diatribean! on 01/23/2015 at 11:57 AM

Re: “What You Missed at Tennessee Right To Life's Press Conference

Yes. This planet needs FIFTY MILLION more unwanted children. We simply don't have enough of those!

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Posted by Laura Smith Moodie on 01/23/2015 at 11:57 AM

Re: “What You Missed at Tennessee Right To Life's Press Conference

What a pure appeal to emotion, Patrick. You act as if abortion doesn't have positive benefits. http://freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/abortio…

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Posted by AnglRdr on 01/23/2015 at 11:54 AM

Re: “Where other mayoral candidates want the pedal down on Nashville's success, David Fox throws a caution flag

I'm really happy to see a candidate acting like a responsible leader focusing on infrastructure, restructuring education, and recognizing the need to rein in our liabilities. I think we need more responsible growth management rather than just cheerleaders for the TV side of Nashville. I love that his approaches are evidence-based, about what is not working, what is, and how others have succeeded.

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Posted by WilloWest on 01/23/2015 at 11:52 AM

Re: “MTA CEO: 'We Should Not Build The Amp at This Time'

Ridership on the West End bus is almost zero at this time. If you lived on or close by there would be essentially no left turns-either direction.

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Posted by john on 01/23/2015 at 11:46 AM

Re: “The Cavalcade of People who Saw and Did Nothing

Ah the good ol' bystander effect. To remedy this, you are supposed to look someone in the eye and directly ask them for help. However, if you are lying naked and barely conscious in the hallway after being brutally gang raped and are unable to ask for help, well then you are just shit out of luck.

Thank you for the article. It expressed my own feelings regarding some of the happenings surrounding the rape. It boggles the mind, what people are capable of doing (and not doing).

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Posted by nashville_marie on 01/23/2015 at 11:39 AM

Re: “What You Missed at Tennessee Right To Life's Press Conference

Merely "a right to discuss with others"?

The hell with personal autonomy?

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Posted by notguilty on 01/23/2015 at 11:38 AM

Re: “What You Missed at Tennessee Right To Life's Press Conference

Since 1973, over 50,000,000 (50 Million) abortions have been performed in the US. I would conservatively suggest that there would have been at least an 80% birth rate among those, so 40,000,000 (40 Million) children were denied the opportunity to be born. Who among us are disappointed their mother made the decision to carry her baby to term instead of choosing an abortion?

Abortion should never be used as a means of birth-control. In the risk of life to the mother, abortion is an issue that a woman should have a right to discuss with others before making that decision.

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Posted by Patrick Keohane on 01/23/2015 at 11:36 AM

Re: “What You Missed at Tennessee Right To Life's Press Conference

"There is one libertarian view about abortion--libertarians might not be libertarian about all things."

Touche.

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Posted by 44allin on 01/23/2015 at 11:34 AM

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