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Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

Mr. Jakes, I wasn't talking about your post. I was talking about the posts that were not signed with full, real names. Thanks for your response.

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Posted by Pete Wilson on 04/27/2013 at 5:08 PM

Re: “A sexagenarian midwife says she's the latest Tennessean busted for growing medical marijuana

>>Would you not have been the slightest bit curious as to what those weapons were, since they had some bearing on the prosecution? And now that you know, from reading what the guns in question were, do you agree that they're the kind of weapons that signify a heavily armed drug operation?<<

No, they're not. In fact, unless they're stolen/free, those two guns described would be the LAST guns used "to protect a drug operation" due to their design. In fact, were *I* a SWAT officer, *I* would prefer they had those exact models instead of a hundred other models that would be much, much dangerous to a raiding police team.

While giving a slight nod to your premise that the DA is indeed a gun-idiot, the answer to your other question is "no, I would NOT be curious" as to what guns the DA is speaking of. Politicians, DA's & "journalists" have a long, long history of being completely & wholly ignorant on almost all things firearm-related. So it might seem that Mr. Wilson indeed has company on that particular issue within this particular story.

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Posted by bobsguns on 04/27/2013 at 4:08 PM

Re: “A sexagenarian midwife says she's the latest Tennessean busted for growing medical marijuana

Let me try this again. Wilson writes: "The prosecution argued these are 'the kinds of weapons drug dealers possess to protect their operations.' " Suppose he had simply written, "The prosecution said they possessed the kinds of weapons drug dealers use to protect their operations," and included no description of the guns themselves. Would you not have been the slightest bit curious as to what those weapons were, since they had some bearing on the prosecution? And now that you know, from reading what the guns in question were, do you agree that they're the kind of weapons that signify a heavily armed drug operation? You seem to be arguing they're so nondescript that they don't. What do you make of that?

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Posted by mr. pink on 04/27/2013 at 3:55 PM

Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

Can't y'all see Ken is begging you to call him? Visit him? He gave up three numbers and his home address. For crying out loud, what more do you want? He's a very bitter, angry and lonely man, with only all those pseudonyms, imaginary friends and stacks of requested records to keep him company. Who wouldn't want to hang out with him?

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Posted by call1800jakes on 04/27/2013 at 1:28 PM

Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

Pete, If you notice my other post you will see where I gave my name, address, and all phone contact. Thank you for posting. I certainly will claim any statement I make.

Ken Jakes.

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Posted by Ken Jakes on 04/27/2013 at 9:30 AM

Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

The comments on this page are another great argument for ending anonymous posting.

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Posted by Pete Wilson on 04/27/2013 at 9:18 AM

Re: “A sexagenarian midwife says she's the latest Tennessean busted for growing medical marijuana

>>it sounds like your beef is with the prosecutors.<<

Not at all, my "beef" is with Mr. Wilson's lack of writing/reporting "skills" (or lack thereof). A similar example would be writing that "the bank robbers sped away in a car with 4 wheels & tires & possibly a radio." IOW, it means nothing to the story.

Mr. Wilson could've simply written "that multiple firearms were recovered from the residence" & THAT would have been germane to the story. Listing two foreign-sounding named firearms was either Mr. Wilson's intent to make these folks sound more menacing or was Mr. Wilson's whole & complete lack of understanding about firearms. Take your pick, IMO.

No doubt Mr. Wilson scored high marks at his on-line college.............

Posted by bobsguns on 04/27/2013 at 8:27 AM

Re: “A sexagenarian midwife says she's the latest Tennessean busted for growing medical marijuana

"So why even mention it?"

See the very next sentence in that paragraph, where the prosecutors (not the reporter) argue that the presence of these guns is proof the accused were protecting a drug-dealing operation. Which means the accused faced an even harsher sentence (hence the "worse"). In other words, it sounds like your beef is with the prosecutors.

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Posted by mr. pink on 04/26/2013 at 10:50 PM

Re: “A sexagenarian midwife says she's the latest Tennessean busted for growing medical marijuana

>>i personally know a cop with over 30 guns. why does he need that many?<<

A) Because he can. This is why many choose to live in a free state instead of a communist one.

B) Would it matter if he owned that many books? Or computers?

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Posted by bobsguns on 04/26/2013 at 9:30 PM

Re: “A sexagenarian midwife says she's the latest Tennessean busted for growing medical marijuana

>>Worse, though, officers seized five guns, including a 9mm Makarov pistol and a semiautomatic SKS rifle.<<

Sweet jesus, how silly can one report writer be?????

1) A Makarov is nothing more than a $200 pistol. It's neither more "deadly" than a S&W 9mm or a Colt .380acp or its 9x18mm caliber. So why even mention it?

2) ALL SKS rifles are "semi-automatic". They're NEVER full-auto, even when introduced in the Viet Nam war back in the 1960s. They also come with a fixed 10rd mag, not exactly what gun we owners think of when it comes to home protection.

God, reporters are SO dense when it comes to firearms.

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Posted by bobsguns on 04/26/2013 at 9:28 PM

Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

Evidently our local Tea Partiers are as against proper spelling and grammar as they are big government. If you really want English to be "America's language", why don't you learn it?

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Posted by ThirdGrade on 04/26/2013 at 9:13 PM

Re: “Considering one of history's mysteries: whether a Cherokee operative betrayed his people at the Battle of Buchanan's Station — and saved Nashville

This Indian Raid was a big deal in the fact that it stopped the Spaniards from any kind of claim. But in the History of Tn, it was just another Indian Fight, of which there were many. Other history, will add information to your knowledge. First, Timothy Demonbruen, french fur trader had been trading with the Natives for years at this point. Although no history record records it, I believe he had more to do with this that is being told. Even though he had no military title at that time, this was another double agent style play.
Mr. Demonbreun had known Mr. Fagot back in Illinois, and Mr. Fagot married a demonbruen. Joseph Durat or other spellings, was the step father to one of Mr. Demonbreuns future sons. Finnelson was sent by Gov. Blount to help with this mission, he continued to live with his people, who later moved to Alabama. (Durat had many spellings)

Haywood states:
intelligence was instantly given by Capt. Demumbrane to the Cumberland settlement.
Derogue gave his information to Gen. Robertson on the 15th
of September, which the general caused to be reduced to writ-
ing, and to be immediately transmitted by express to Gov.
Blount. Derogue stated that he was a native of Canada, and
came first to Canada in the employment of Mr. Fagot
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William Blount War Papers
http://www.civicscope.org/nashville-tn/Bat…
The Captain de Mombray, of Nashville, whose name is mentioned in the information of Jo. Deraque and Richard Finnelson, is the bearer of this letter, an old resident of Kaskaskias, where he served as a Captain under General George Rogers Clark; last war, with reputation, and is now a valuable and respectable citizen.

I have the honor to be, acquainted

An account of the attack, by the Creeks and Cherokees, upon Buchanan’s Station, on the 30th September, 1792
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At the time, the Cherokee's on the Warpath, were only a fraction of the young drunk punks who wanted revenge. Most of the Cherokee Nation was allied with the state and just wanted to lived in Peace.
As given in the War Records. It was these young warriors who betrayed their people.

John Watts, first went to Gov. Blounts, for dinner and to tell him No, we are not going to War, then went on his trip to Buchanan's Station.

It had to be confusing, one minute, Cherokees were on your side, then you were fighting them, then they stood with "Jackson" at Horseshoe bend.

Before the Attack:
Date September 13, 1792
Author Name John Sevier (primary) Location: Little River
Recipient Name William Blount (primary)
Summary Sevier invited to join council held in Cherokee nation in town of Chota. At council Sevier was notified that the five lower towns had declared war on United States, J. Watts heads party. Hostile Indians plan on attacking frontier settlements. Assurances that every other part of the Cherokee nation is happily at peace with United States. Special note on Indian town names and names of chiefs that oppose declaration of war, Sevier provided those chiefs with Indian goods so as to foster good relations.
War Dept. Papers


Proof on Finnelston from several sources
Governor Blount to Major Beard
Knoxville, April 18th 1793
The object of your command is to relieve the Cumberland inhabitants, Mero district, from a powerful invasion of the Creeks, who passed the Tennessee for war aginst the United States, particularly that part thereof. To effect that object, you will march from this place, and proceed without delay, by the way of Southwest Point and the southern , or upper waters of the Cany Fork, to the paths which the Creeks generally pass to war against that district, and to the woods in which they form their camps, and from that annoy the inhabitants of Cumberland land in smaller parties. You will have with you, for your guide Richard Finnelson, a Cherokee, who is perfectly acquainted with both, and on whose fidelity you may full depend
American State Papers: Documents, Legislative and Executive 1832
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The Backwards Trail by: Will T Hale
Major James Ore (1794)
Gen. Robertson
Running Water was counted the largest and among
the most hostile towns of the Cherokees. Nicko-
jack was not less hostile, but inferior in point of num-
bers. At Nickojack were found two fresh scalps which
had latch' been taken at Cumberland

The prisoners taken, among whom was the wife and
child of. Richard (Dick) Finnelson, my pilot
The end of major Indian Wars in Tennessee
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In September 1793 an event was catalogued in which the site of Rome was brought to the attention of the country. Gen. John Sevier descended upon Cherokee Georgia from Tennessee chasing with his 800 men 1,000 Indians who had scalped and killed thirteen people at Cavett's Station near Knoxville and had retreated southward. Gen. Sevier swept out such resistance as was offered, and burned a number of indian towns Indian guides Cary and Finnelston.
(Kingfisher killed)
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Appears to me that Finnelston was trying to help his people maintain peace and keep the land they did have left., On several occasions.

John Sevier, William Blount, Gen. Robertson, Capt. Demonbreun
trusted him , Why question it just because he was a half breed?
He should be considered a Tennessee Hero, in my book.

Posted by Sharon Perry on 04/26/2013 at 6:26 PM

Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

I wish Ken Jakes the same success in his future attempts at being elected to office that he enjoyed in his first two. If a self-important bullying blowhard brays to 'the people' and only his Tea Posse pays attention, does he really matter at all?

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Posted by kenjakesisaloser on 04/26/2013 at 5:13 PM

Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

Kudo's to Ken Jakes, we need many more citizens doing their due digilence on the State and Local Levels of Government. Keep up the good work Ken.............................

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Posted by Gov/Sunshine on 04/26/2013 at 12:49 PM

Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

In my oppion I would like to thank ken Jakes for all his hard work & applaud him for all his hard work finding all these things wrong in our city. If we had more elected OFFICIALS (statesman ) our city would be ran more effective. We need BIG changes in our city. I will be casting my vote for Ken Jakes For council @large I invite you to do the same in 2015 for Big changes in our city. For we the people. Thanks again Mr Ken Jakes For all you do for our great city of Nashville

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Posted by Tony Watson on 04/26/2013 at 8:22 AM

Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

Let me make just a few comments. You state in your article "Every Metro source the Scene reached repeatedly affirmed Jakes' right to request and obtain public records." I am certainly glad that all agree I have the right to request and obtain these records, because I am going to do just that. I will continue to request as I uncover and investigate. I will continue to review and obtain records and I feel sure it will not be limited to the Nashville Farmers Market, although with the lack of management and abuse of tax payer monies it could turn out to a full time career at the Market. And yes I will continue on the issue that the operating rules of the market PROHIBIT ALCOHOL in any form to be consumed, kept, bought, or sold on the market premises, and yet they allow wine and beer to be sold on the market. It isn't about the sell of wine or beer, it is about picking and choosing when the rules and regulations apply. The same rules and regulations Prohibit Smoking but yet they enforce them strictly on the vendors outside and even fine them $25.00 fine if they don't follow the rules. I don't smoke anymore but if I were a farmer outside who did, I would light one up and tell the Market that I would put it out just as soon as they changed their rule PROHIBITING ALCOHOL or stopped the sales. Your article states that the market will be supplied " supplemental tax payer income of $ 615,700.00". Let be clear as I can, you can bet as long as they are loosing this kind of tax payer monies for the total lack of management and poor business decisions of the Board I will continue to investigate. Let me state further if the Board continues to charge the farmers the absolute ridiculous rental rate of $ 644.00 dollars a month for a 10 ft. wide open air stall exposed to freezing conditions Nashville will become the only Farmers Market without Farmers. I noticed your article would not reveal any of your sources but let me give you mine because anything I say or do feel free to place as your cover story. Ken Jakes 5920, Clarksville Pike Joelton Tn. 37080 / cell phone 615-347-3379 / Office 615-227-1993 / Home 615-876-6220.

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Posted by Ken Jakes on 04/26/2013 at 7:54 AM

Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

9 previous comments and 8 of them are anonymous based on the color of the name. Me smells a buncha rotten cucumber commentors. They are all probably him.

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Posted by fork lift on 04/26/2013 at 7:02 AM

Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

Can you imagine if we squashed the freedom of the press? It seems to me the undercurrent of this article is to find a problem with Ken Jakes exercising his rights to inspect records. Thank God for the Ken Jakes of the world! Is anyone else tired incompetence and corruption? I am. I am also tired of the wasteful spending and mismanagement of taxes so we pay more with the increased property taxes. Ken Jakes is doing what most of us wish we could do but busy working 2 and 3 jobs and unable to requests records during business hours. Stay on the Ken! We need you!

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Posted by doubled on 04/25/2013 at 11:15 PM

Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

We need 100 more Ken Jakes in every city across America! Then the crooked government officials & corporate management folks would do their jobs or be fired & quit bilking the public! Love the term Hurricane Jakes! Keep it Ken...we need 1000 more like you! As for the scene...what is the problem? do not even see why this story is relavent except Jakes is watching out for the folks!

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Posted by msdoggie on 04/25/2013 at 7:52 PM

Re: “A government watchdog's records-request bombardment of Metro agencies raises eyebrows at Nashville Farmers Market

Criminal would also describe agreeing to call off a "watchdog" if rates were lowered.

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Posted by GadflySpray on 04/25/2013 at 6:09 PM

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