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Re: “Can Ferguson Happen Here?

Yes, yes it can happen here.

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Posted by yes on 08/18/2014 at 1:12 PM

Re: “Can Ferguson Happen Here?

It is about us, dummy. If anyone is denied justice then we're all in jeopardy. The scurrilous trolls in here refuse to picture themselves in any other man's shoes, can't for a minute imagine the fear and helplessness those people feel, when any of them can be shot down for little or no reason. And they point to the looting as proof of their character. If law enforcement doesn't follow the rule of law, how can we expect them to?

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Posted by yes on 08/18/2014 at 1:11 PM

Re: “Thanks, Uncle Sam! Surveying Middle Tennessee's Military Toys

Hell, why would they dress in camo? It was made for the jungle - so you can't be seen.

In a town, police use camouflage so that they are seen (and feared). These riot police should be wearing NASCAR-type uniforms with payday lenders and 7-11 advertising.

(credit to someplace else I read the thought)

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Posted by Diatribean!! on 08/18/2014 at 1:10 PM

Re: “Can Ferguson Happen Here?

Barry isn't hinting at anything. He has explicitly laid out the reasons that Ferguson is less likely to happen in a consolidated county. I hope he's right. I know Nashville doesn't have the same toxic intra-county tension that other midsize cities do (Memphis/Shelby come to mind after the school district battle last year)

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Posted by twh on 08/18/2014 at 12:56 PM

Re: “We Try Again to Fix Our Domestic Violence Problem

bubbadog, I have to say that Dexter should look into replacing his campaign chairman, as this is the first any of us have heard of his candidacy...

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Posted by localboy on 08/18/2014 at 12:54 PM

Re: “The Daily Links: Ferguson, Editors, and the EPL

"What's happening in St Louis is a black thing"

REALLY! REALLY,yoyojohn!

What's happening in Ferguson is a tragic thing. A thing that SHOULD effect us all emotionally and generate outrage at the callous attitudes of the local police officials and their conduct. It's no more a "black thing", it's a thing that should never happen and the fact it did casts dispersions on the belief we as Americans, as a people are truly free form tyranny from draconian measures. Separating people by race resembles "The Selection" experienced by concentration camp residents. IT is an affront to us all, except for those still pining for the days of Wallace and Maddox and the boys in hoods and robes!
Why you worked in your shot at Islam confuses me, unless you simply wish to wave your Rebel battle flag!

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Posted by Jim Collins on 08/18/2014 at 12:47 PM

Re: “Can Ferguson Happen Here?

"Consolidation makes this worse, not better."

Leave it to the white upper-middle class libertards to mansplain and politicize murder. it's not about you.

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Posted by no on 08/18/2014 at 12:45 PM

Re: “The Daily Links: Ferguson, Editors, and the EPL

Prag,

Has it ever concerned you that JC is just weak, can't do his duty and spends a good bit of time justifying the unjustifiable. Makes him uncomfortable seeing blacks suffer and then when MB is shot, probably wrongly, he attacks me, white people, cops. Any one not colored is fair game.

I hope you do not drift off that way.

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Posted by john on 08/18/2014 at 12:38 PM

Re: “Can Ferguson Happen Here?

Can what happen here?
Do you mean a hypothetical incident where a cop shoots a black youth and there is an ensuing investigation that leaves some parties disappointed in the ultimate legal outcome? If so, sure.
Or do you mean something just like Ferguson which is a GOTV effort designed by fully cooperative Democratic Party outfits like MSNBC and liberal blogs to encourage blacks and progressive whites to get to the polls in November? That would depend on the political calendar.

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Posted by iloveanal on 08/18/2014 at 12:34 PM

Re: “Evans Pauses Effort to Shrink Metro Council

".. the Metro Council's Minority Caucus" - and also members of the current power structure.

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Posted by localboy on 08/18/2014 at 12:31 PM

Re: “Can Ferguson Happen Here?

And, I guess I wonder what the author means by "Ferguson Happen(ing) Here."

Definitely, (1) - the shooting of a Mike Brown could happen here. There's no accounting for individual actors, be they police or those the police confront.

The looting - I'd like to think it wouldn't happen here, but I'll say never-say-never. In any case, Ferguson should be a wakeup call for those in law enforcement charged with maintaining contact and trust with various constituencies around town.

The militarized police response - I have no insight into the inner-workings of MNPD. But, if riot police and MRAPs were deployed (when there was no riot), I think there'd be universal outrage among Nashvillians of all classes and colors.

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Posted by Diatribean!! on 08/18/2014 at 12:14 PM

Re: “Can Ferguson Happen Here?

I miss the connection between Feguson's "all-white power structure" (which is what the linked article is about) and Ferguson "happening."

I think it is a leap of logic that assumes (1) the shooting of Mike Brown, (2) the resulting looting, and (3) the over-the-top police response are mainly results of the makeup of the power structure in Ferguson.

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Posted by Diatribean!! on 08/18/2014 at 12:03 PM

Re: “Can Ferguson Happen Here?

I was using it as an example from the past. The Metro Charter does not prevent bad governance.

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Posted by Moost on 08/18/2014 at 11:56 AM

Re: “Can Ferguson Happen Here?

In Fairness, Lakewood has been dissolved for two years.

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Posted by scavendish on 08/18/2014 at 11:53 AM

Re: “Can Ferguson Happen Here?

The rot of the urban cores along the Mississippi River core takes a back seat of the decay of the cities in the "Rust Belt" and Northeastern states so it gets forgotten until things like this. When it gets bad enough it eventually eats at the inner ring inside the same county with the big brother city people escaped to begin with. Rather than fix the problems which cause people to flee with their families city leaders instead get in pissing contests with other cities over stupid things like tourism and sports facilities.

Nashville is not immune to what is happening to the North and West, we are just not as far along the time line. The overused "World Class City" label is too often used to compete with cities making the same stupid mistakes. A world class city actually gets that way by serving residents and giving them reasons to stay. Instead, we have projects to pull in tourists. Our poor decisions will eventually reach all the way out to the Davidson County line.

Gee, I am sure glad we do not have any ring communities with histories of overactive police departments or administrations (ahem Lakewood and Belle Meade I am looking at you).

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Posted by Moost on 08/18/2014 at 11:33 AM

Re: “Historic Sylvan Park Sues Planning Commission Over Overlay Disapproval

These historic people need to be relegated to the dustbins of history. Stop yer whining!

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Posted by sylvanparkoverlord on 08/18/2014 at 11:32 AM

Re: “Thanks, Uncle Sam! Surveying Middle Tennessee's Military Toys

Why dies any police department need a mine-resistant vehicle?

Not to mention assault rifles.

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Posted by bored regent on 08/18/2014 at 11:23 AM

Re: “Can Ferguson Happen Here?

While the parallels between St Louis & Nashville with respect to sub/urban development are no doubt interesting, I find the conclusion you're hinting at (that it's less likely to happen here because of consolidation, forgive me if i'm wrong) to be a bit hard to swallow. Local police forces have been militarized via the direct injection of subsidy and surplus from the federal government in pursuit of its various wars on victimless crimes. Consolidation makes this worse, not better.

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Posted by Chris Wage on 08/18/2014 at 11:16 AM

Re: “The Daily Links: Ferguson, Editors, and the EPL

I'll say again, the governor of MO says it appears violence now is coordinated.

Of course we lump people together. What's happening in St Louis is a balck thing.

Think, if possible, in other situations. TheGermans voted, lawfully, to make Hitler their leader.
How's that for lumping. So, can I say Germans are to blame for millions of deaths or, well, you must not blame all Germans? The "Good German." JC, blacks are a group, like it or not. Your assumptions about me are at best unfair.

It is estimated 300 mil Muslims are extremists/radical. A group of Muslims whose beliefs are simply unacceptable.

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Posted by john on 08/18/2014 at 11:00 AM

Re: “The Daily Links: Ferguson, Editors, and the EPL

Jim,

"IF he was shot in the car in the top of the head, he would have died immediately"

That's not necessarily true. It's the way to bet, but still an assumption not yet proven by the autopsy results.

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Posted by Pragmatist on 08/18/2014 at 10:46 AM

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