Narrow Search

  • Show Only

  • Category

  • Narrow by Date

    • All
    • Today
    • Last 7 Days
    • Last 30 Days
    • Select a Date Range

Comment Archives: stories: News: Cover Story

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

One more church infected with Secular Humanism. If you water down God's message, then it is no longer God's message. This is a major reason for people leaving religion behind. Christ preached forgiveness, but he did not preach acceptance, let alone approval, of sin.

23 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by Observer on 06/30/2015 at 10:47 AM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

Stan apparently likes the drama he can create within any Faith based church he serves. At Christ Church he announced his separation from his wife and mother of his children to a shocked audience. Of course, cold shoulders and sharp eyes let him know he was no longer welcomed there, and off he went.
He's convincing, rather handsome, confused, and not to be trusted with heart or soul.

33 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by NeverFear on 06/29/2015 at 12:27 PM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

Matthew 18:6New International Version (NIV)

6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

10 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by Concerned on 06/28/2015 at 6:15 PM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

I think the article did a good job of presenting dissenting voices from the church. And also, for those of us who have stayed at Gracepointe, we have never looked upon those who have left as "bigots." We all know full well that there were many things playing into peoples' decisions to leave, to stay, to visit because of this news. Nobody thinks you're bigots for leaving. Nobody. We wish you well. We wish you the best. You are loved. Be well.

5 likes, 21 dislikes
Posted by Hcecil on 06/28/2015 at 11:32 AM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

""Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
Matthew 7:15"

But how do you know which are false? Which are wolves?

Seems that's the difficulty for many Christians right now. It's never safe to assume the wolves are simply those with whom you disagree.

10 likes, 5 dislikes
Posted by madison tn on 06/28/2015 at 8:26 AM

Re: “For a teen’s impulsive, unthinkable act, Cyntoia Brown got an adult’s life sentence. Was justice served?

I know we al have been hurt before and we can say we could act in different ways, but in depends in the invironment you are in. For example, positive and a positive equals positive a positive and a negative usually goes were the highest variable is higher this person who was with her is a criminal. He knew she was a minor many people get away with it but through this ordeal she was still a child.. God knows and has set judgement upon this man for hurting and touching his child every one of those people deserve gods wrath if she was your child what would you suggest....? I believe you would put gods wrath upon them!!

Posted by romans on 06/27/2015 at 11:32 PM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
Matthew 7:15

37 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by heismysong on 06/27/2015 at 6:44 PM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

Incredibly written, even-handed article. Even if you don't agree with Stan's conclusions, it took some serious courage to do what he did. He is living out his faith, even when the consequences are heartbreaking.

3 likes, 25 dislikes
Posted by Erika Chambers on 06/27/2015 at 2:18 PM

Re: “A new volunteer organization helps transgender individuals with the sometimes tricky elements of health care

This comment has been removed for violating our comments policy. http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/CommentPolicy/Page

5 likes, 9 dislikes
Posted by Utfan11 on 06/26/2015 at 6:09 PM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

I love Nashville! So often these issues are represented by the angry conservative minority and liberal activists. The great majority of the church people I know are simply trying to follow Christ and not angry at people with same-sex attraction. For example, the comments here are civil and well stated. I would wager that GracePointe was also full of smart, compassionate, civil people who deserved an honest leadership structure - not one man with a hidden agenda who thinks himself superior.

39 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Jennifer H on 06/26/2015 at 3:22 PM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

I feel someone should point out the irony in the fact that he didn't prepare for this announcement by consulting with his board and elders. That says that this church is set up in such a way that the pastor can make this kind of announcement and big change with no accountability. That's scary. It sounds like he sees himself as the ultimate authority and acted on that. How is that different from the dynamic in which he grew up? Maybe his congregation are not the ones who need to be "brought around."
As Dan Scott said, it is irresponsible and cowardly to ignore this subject, but it is also irresponsible and cowardly to go behind the backs of the leaders you've committed to be accountable to and turn your church upside down with a decision that has no biblical standing.

66 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by DC29 on 06/26/2015 at 1:47 PM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

My wife and I were two of those standing and applauding. We are also two of those that have left. Gracepointe was an absolute blessing in our lives for over half a decade...we grew as people and Christians...and immensely enjoyed Stan's talent for presenting God's word as you have never heard it...but to know that there was an underlying agenda for years prior is confirmation of what we were feeling before leaving - and in order to tell the whole story, you have to tell the whole story. There was deception. The Church changed. The message changed. What is sin? What are the absolutes? If there aren't any absolutes, then what did Jesus die for? These are the questions that weren't being answered. The interesting thing is, we absolutely could have stayed if accepting and loving the LGBT community was the only issue - but it was not. There was another announcement the following Sunday that absolutely made us question the leadership - and was not included in the article. That revelation dramatically damaged Stan's ability to serve as an example and also, calls his judgement into question. To err once is human. To err twice is dubious at best. That is not said with anger, or judgement - we all fall short of the glory of God - but we don't all lead a congregation of 2000 people. People whom had given their hearts and souls were blindsided by these two announcements. But now, those that left because trust had been broken, are now painted as bigots. THAT is what is so sad and disappointing about the entire thing.

78 likes, 10 dislikes
Posted by John Kennedy on 06/26/2015 at 1:27 PM
Posted by Sam on 06/26/2015 at 10:58 AM

Re: “For a teen’s impulsive, unthinkable act, Cyntoia Brown got an adult’s life sentence. Was justice served?

I watched this documentary on YouTube a few months ago, and I was deeply concerned that Cyntoia Brown had not received the right conviction. Unless I missed important parts in the documentary it did not included what I learned here about the case: "a 43-year-old real estate agent picked her up . . . . That night, Cyntoia shot him in the back of the head and stole a couple of guns from his house. She was caught, and a jury convicted her of first-degree murder and especially aggravated robbery." (B. Hargrove, why did you write "especially"?)

I didn't know that she
stole guns from this house after she killed him. Based on the YouTube documentary it appears that she murdered him because she thought he reached for a gun to kill her. However, I wondered why he appeared asleep with his hands in a comfortable position. His fingers were between each other in a relaxed position. Therefore, there is no indication that he reached for a gun. Unfortunately, Cyntoia had developed a criminal mind.

If it had been an accident then she would have called 911. She would not have made sure that he was dead and stole guns from his house and thought that she would get away with it. This article states that she was "caught." For those reasons, she is dangerous and received the right sentence. Prostitution is illegal in Tennessee, and Johnny Allen naively took a stranger to his house for sex because she was and still is an attractive person, but he put his life at risk.

Posted by Balanced Thinker on 06/26/2015 at 9:50 AM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

hey guys !!!
you should get us please and join us help us by funding us
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Young-Leaders-Official/799076286841799?pnref=story

or calling on this

+923034483641

1 like, 10 dislikes
Posted by Alma Randall on 06/26/2015 at 7:03 AM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

I did have to laugh at: "We're a Bible-preaching church, not Unitarian." Guess there are limits. I applaud GracePointe.

4 likes, 9 dislikes
Posted by oldhickorytony on 06/26/2015 at 5:25 AM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

Nashville500 - you make great points. And it is bold. And bold Christianity is what some of us (perhaps all of us) need. And bold people will listen to him. Maybe not "follow" him or rely on him for their spiritual fill, but they'll engage in conversation that needs to happen. Just like the conversation or debate that we are lucky to be having.

10 likes, 29 dislikes
Posted by MusicCity1 on 06/25/2015 at 5:47 PM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

If you consider the first century church model revealed in the New Testament bible, then it's both prescriptive and centuries-old. (Granted, one would have to subscribe to an understanding of the text being inerrant and holy - requiring both rationale and faith that it is more than simply historic documentation.) Humanity's centuries of wrestling with the text doesn't negate the original text or diminish the importance of that wrestling. Many would argue that despite the interpretations of the model across time, the essentials of the model were established centuries ago. Everything from the role of pastors, deacons and elders to church authority and practices are illustrated. The literal following of the model would require a congregation to be in submission to each other and authorities, as well as feelings, intellect and the Holy Spirit. If you can reconstruct the text as relative to the reader, or generation, or location, or emotional season where it is consumed, then Stan's "democracy of the ages" arguments can work. Still, it's a bold interpretation of the bible and the role of a pastor.

14 likes, 8 dislikes
Posted by Nashville5000 on 06/25/2015 at 2:07 PM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

This might be the most well done article i've seen come out of Nashville in the past decade. Well done Kim Green. You captured the entire difficult debate and superbly painted the truly complicated picture of this difficult issue.

28 likes, 30 dislikes
Posted by jaseguy on 06/25/2015 at 1:36 PM

Re: “Embracing LGBT members may have saved Franklin's GracePointe church — or destroyed it

If you accept that we're all sinners to a degree, then the article's 4,187 words are just a prelude...come back and tell us about the acceptance of the paroled murderer, rapist, child molester and others whose stories are so much more at the end of the spectrum than this, from the eyes of a traditional congregation.

28 likes, 11 dislikes
Posted by localboy on 06/25/2015 at 1:00 PM

Sign Up! For the Scene's email newsletters





* required

All contents © 1995-2015 City Press LLC, 210 12th Ave. S., Ste. 100, Nashville, TN 37203. (615) 244-7989.
All rights reserved. No part of this service may be reproduced in any form without the express written permission of City Press LLC,
except that an individual may download and/or forward articles via email to a reasonable number of recipients for personal, non-commercial purposes.
Powered by Foundation